In Reply to: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir posted by Charles Hansen on October 29, 2017 at 06:23:44:
Oh dear, there a nadir involved here but, I contend, a different one.
Charles has a diametrically opposed philosophy to audio than Benchmark. He finds the use of opamps anathema, rightly or wrongly, and is taking this out on Jim Austin for liking a Benchmark product. Added to the recent insults because Jim wrote positively about MQA - another bone of contention.
Have a philosophical position on audio, even a very strongly held one, but if that position is based on subjectivity you have to be prepared that not everyone will agree. When you start nit-picking and insulting those that don't agree then that is a nadir.
Regards
13DoW
ps. for the record the nadir of Stereophile, IMO, is this rant published under the guise of 'Manufacturer Feedback'
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- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 15:10:25 10/30/17 (87)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - ornery 21:11:54 10/30/17 (60)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - Charles Hansen 22:38:53 10/30/17 (58)
- RE: cost ratio of class A vs Class D over time - ornery 20:45:30 10/31/17 (42)
- One big difference - Charles Hansen 21:06:05 10/31/17 (41)
- I basically agree with what Mel said. But I'd be interested in seeing..... - Rick W 12:36:05 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: One big difference - ornery 09:41:38 11/01/17 (0)
- You got that almost right - sideliner 09:24:43 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: You got that almost right - stehno 21:43:12 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: One big difference - Mel 09:23:18 11/01/17 (0)
- Americans have been trained to seek out the lowest cost... - Steve O 09:00:32 11/01/17 (9)
- RE: Americans have been trained to seek out the lowest cost... - standingstones 12:09:37 11/02/17 (1)
- Great post! +1 (nt) - Charles Hansen 19:41:28 11/02/17 (0)
- Should I be - E-Stat 12:25:16 11/01/17 (4)
- Absolutely!... - Steve O 13:26:38 11/01/17 (3)
- Who is better? - E-Stat 06:07:52 11/02/17 (1)
- Check the packaging and label for the info important to YOU and choose accordingly... - Steve O 07:16:31 11/02/17 (0)
- RE: Absolutely!... - Charles Hansen 14:28:09 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: Americans have been trained to seek out the lowest cost... - A.Wayne 11:51:55 11/01/17 (1)
- Actually, neither... - Steve O 13:37:14 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: One big difference - Dale Clark 04:51:47 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: One big difference - Peter Qvortrup 03:02:46 11/01/17 (24)
- RE: One big difference - sideliner 10:39:05 11/01/17 (23)
- RE: One big difference - Inmate51 11:13:48 11/01/17 (22)
- RE: One big difference - mkuller 20:36:55 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: One big difference - stehno 21:53:15 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: One big difference - sideliner 16:06:47 11/01/17 (8)
- RE: One big difference - A.Wayne 16:11:11 11/01/17 (7)
- RE: One big difference - sideliner 16:51:27 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: One big difference - Charles Hansen 16:44:37 11/01/17 (5)
- RE: One big difference - A.Wayne 17:22:03 11/01/17 (4)
- RE: One big difference - Charles Hansen 19:41:55 11/01/17 (3)
- RE: One big difference - A.Wayne 20:35:40 11/01/17 (2)
- RE: One big difference - Charles Hansen 20:57:28 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: One big difference - Inmate51 00:31:37 11/02/17 (0)
- Suffice it to say, you should see Michael Moore's film Where To Invade Next. nt - Rick W 14:32:31 11/01/17 (1)
- Excellent movie. +1 (nt) - Charles Hansen 14:48:45 11/01/17 (0)
- Good grief, I agree with you. - Dave Pogue 13:28:51 11/01/17 (8)
- RE: Good grief, I agree with you. - Wojciech 14:03:38 11/01/17 (7)
- RE: Good grief, I agree with you. - A.Wayne 15:58:10 11/01/17 (3)
- RE: Good grief, I agree with you. - Wojciech 17:36:57 11/01/17 (0)
- Number? Dunno, but I do know that something's wrong with this..... - Rick W 16:40:41 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: Number? Dunno, but I do know that something's wrong with this..... - Charles Hansen 16:52:14 11/01/17 (0)
- Well, as a former CEO ... - Dave Pogue 14:14:15 11/01/17 (2)
- RE: Well, as a former CEO ... - Wojciech 17:54:59 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: Well, as a former CEO ... - Dave Pogue 06:40:27 11/02/17 (0)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - A.Wayne 14:22:46 10/31/17 (14)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - Charles Hansen 19:32:12 10/31/17 (13)
- Perhaps you are thinking of - E-Stat 09:35:27 11/01/17 (2)
- That is a breand-new one on me! - Charles Hansen 15:02:08 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: That is a breand-new one on me! - kentaja 19:32:37 11/06/17 (0)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - kentaja 04:59:33 11/01/17 (9)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - Charles Hansen 14:57:29 11/01/17 (8)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - kentaja 07:53:15 11/06/17 (1)
- RE: Nadir -- Original Quads . . . - goldenthal 01:24:39 11/14/17 (0)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - regmac 19:13:14 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - A.Wayne 16:01:42 11/01/17 (4)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - Charles Hansen 17:24:22 11/01/17 (3)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - goldenthal 01:38:33 11/14/17 (0)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - A.Wayne 19:18:14 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - Charles Hansen 20:46:03 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: Stereophile Reaches a New Nadir - stehno 21:41:13 10/30/17 (0)
- Please don't get sidetracked - Charles Hansen 18:25:03 10/30/17 (24)
- To be fair to Juanita you may have overlooked one possiblity ... - stehno 18:54:24 10/30/17 (21)
- Here is why I have overlooked that possibility - Charles Hansen 19:37:00 10/30/17 (20)
- Absolutely... - stehno 20:07:08 10/30/17 (19)
- Ditto - E-Stat 14:48:09 10/31/17 (13)
- RE: Ditto - A.Wayne 14:53:45 10/31/17 (12)
- Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - E-Stat 16:07:22 10/31/17 (11)
- RE: Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - Charles Hansen 20:28:48 10/31/17 (7)
- One more factor - E-Stat 07:14:56 11/01/17 (1)
- Great point. (nt) - Charles Hansen 15:12:36 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - John Atkinson 04:48:43 11/01/17 (4)
- RE: Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - Charles Hansen 15:10:24 11/01/17 (3)
- RE: Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - John Atkinson 15:30:29 11/01/17 (2)
- RE: Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - Charles Hansen 16:16:43 11/01/17 (1)
- RE: Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - John Atkinson 04:24:58 11/02/17 (0)
- RE: Perhaps I wasn't clear but... - Ivan303 17:46:05 10/31/17 (2)
- Already have my Ghent Audio cable :) - E-Stat 05:50:44 11/01/17 (1)
- You will note that I have not posted a picture of the DIY Quad Star cable... - Ivan303 08:40:34 11/01/17 (0)
- RE: Absolutely... - Charles Hansen 20:34:27 10/30/17 (4)
- Same with TV... - mkuller 15:17:23 10/31/17 (0)
- RE: Absolutely... Why i still use a CD player - A.Wayne 11:14:53 10/31/17 (1)
- +1...(nt) - mkuller 15:19:16 10/31/17 (0)
- There's an old adage, Something left to itself will always get worse - never better. - stehno 20:59:17 10/30/17 (0)
- You forgot one other possibility, Charles... - Ivan303 18:44:51 10/30/17 (1)
- Thanks, I did overlook that one! (n/t) - Charles Hansen 18:51:46 10/30/17 (0)
- Sorry, but what you said about Jim writing positively about MQA is just not possible... - stehno 17:51:52 10/30/17 (0)