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In Reply to: Re: Seems like Mr. Cooper's position is reasonable... posted by mkuller on February 25, 2004 at 11:52:38:
Warranties
As you can see, Ebay's policy stipultes particularily if you are offering a warranty in your ad. I would never expect a warranty unless specifically stated. To me, this lawyer is verging on harrassment as there is no basis for him to act like this.
Affects Items Worth More than $15 Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a federal law enforced by the Federal Trade Commission, eBay members who offer items on eBay valued at more than $15 and who offer either a written warranty or service contract with the items must in their item descriptions provide one of the following: the full text of the written warranty, a statement explaining how a free copy of the written warranty can be obtained upon written request, or a link within the listing that takes members to the warranty details.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - Part 2 - Ethannnn 11:45:35 02/25/04 (248)
- So.. what about "Like Unused"? - bwhite 20:42:24 02/27/04 (0)
- So.. what about "Like Unused"? - bwhite 20:31:33 02/27/04 (0)
- Like new.... - slope 09:56:33 02/27/04 (4)
- I Say Sue eBay...How Dare They... - Dr. Draz 15:01:24 02/27/04 (0)
- Excellent! But...are you sure that interjecting facts... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 11:58:57 02/27/04 (1)
- Ok..diffrn't view....."like new"..."like new"... - slope 19:50:50 02/27/04 (0)
- That's not going to satisfy some people - J 10:03:45 02/27/04 (0)
- FREEDOM!!! - jealouse 19:40:56 02/26/04 (0)
- People! - photoguy 19:13:58 02/26/04 (2)
- Re: People! - Raiderman 16:16:32 02/27/04 (0)
- Amen, brother. - Tromatic 21:18:10 02/26/04 (0)
- Basically, Ethannn's ad should have read........ - Redstarman 17:11:41 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: Basically, Ethannn's ad should have read........ - SLL 09:27:21 02/27/04 (0)
- This is for Don T..... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 13:26:55 02/26/04 (5)
- Please excuse Don T on this one... - Ivan303 15:19:39 02/26/04 (2)
- Don sounds like my recently deceased dad.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:58:19 02/26/04 (0)
- ...a drummer with some semblance of rhythm (or death), I hope. :-) nt - Methos 15:50:23 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: This is for Don T..... - Don T 14:16:21 02/26/04 (1)
- Don (And I Don't Say This With Anger), Your Reality And Ours Are Clearly Very Different... - Dr. Draz 15:16:48 02/26/04 (0)
- Possible economic motive behind McIntosh's stance (long) - Bayside Bomber 11:08:50 02/26/04 (5)
- This brings up another issue of protecting dealers and exclusive areas... - bhvf 13:50:05 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: This brings up another issue of protecting dealers and exclusive areas... - Bayside Bomber 15:22:30 02/26/04 (0)
- I think this is an excellent analysis of what Mc was trying to do........... - Chuck Y 12:32:38 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Possible economic motive behind McIntosh's stance (long) - Dalton 12:12:35 02/26/04 (1)
- Manifesto!!! - Bayside Bomber 12:25:49 02/26/04 (0)
- Thank you - Ethannnn 07:10:17 02/26/04 (46)
- Okay, I'm convinced... - Jim Austin 09:14:55 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Thank you - Don T 08:39:17 02/26/04 (41)
- "Facsimile Of New", "Was New Two Weeks Ago", "If You Bought It 15 Days Ago It Would Have Been New.".. - Dr. Draz 11:16:42 02/26/04 (1)
- Laugh! - Don T 13:06:54 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Thank you - middleground 10:52:55 02/26/04 (2)
- Re: Thank you - Don T 11:34:12 02/26/04 (1)
- ? - RGA 21:41:19 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Thank you - Sordidman 09:38:33 02/26/04 (35)
- Re: Thank you - Don T 10:32:00 02/26/04 (34)
- That's a big, big, big stretch.... - Sordidman 11:35:22 02/26/04 (12)
- What's so hard about it for you guys? - Don T 11:54:27 02/26/04 (11)
- Two weeks old is not like new? - Sordidman 12:13:33 02/26/04 (10)
- Even further adding to the possible confusion... - Don T 12:25:45 02/26/04 (9)
- Oh, - I see...... - Sordidman 13:46:19 02/26/04 (8)
- No you don't! - Don T 14:12:53 02/26/04 (7)
- I see your point... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:27:10 02/26/04 (6)
- Re: I see your point... - Don T 14:36:42 02/26/04 (5)
- I think that I see the problem here... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:46:05 02/26/04 (4)
- Re: I think that I see the problem here... - Don T 14:57:36 02/26/04 (3)
- You just cannot grasp that... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:35:29 02/26/04 (2)
- Re: You just cannot grasp that... - Don T 17:33:56 02/26/04 (1)
- Frankly I have... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 19:08:08 02/26/04 (0)
- After a post like that... - Charles Hansen 10:55:20 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: After a post like that... - Don T 11:09:25 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Thank you - tom1356 10:46:42 02/26/04 (16)
- About 5 years ago when I was experiment with jazz... - Don T 12:19:06 02/26/04 (15)
- Hey Don - J 14:15:39 02/26/04 (11)
- J your a funny guy! - Don T 14:21:01 02/26/04 (10)
- ha ha ha - J 15:23:25 02/26/04 (6)
- Re: ha ha ha - Don T 17:46:05 02/26/04 (5)
- J, as a "super intellect with stunning brilliance"..... - Rini 05:48:06 02/27/04 (1)
- It means she's been deceived on an audio purchase on Ebay - J 06:47:45 02/27/04 (0)
- Re: ha ha ha - J 18:26:00 02/26/04 (2)
- Re: ha ha ha - Don T 18:58:44 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: ha ha ha - J 20:53:23 02/26/04 (0)
- It all hinges on the term "like new".... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 14:33:05 02/26/04 (2)
- Hi, this is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.......... - Sordidman 16:26:39 02/26/04 (1)
- It doesn't make any difference. - Don T 17:57:57 02/26/04 (1)
- So you do understand the language you just choose to be wrong. nt - tom1356 12:50:04 02/26/04 (2)
- No I chose "no deception" and truth in advertising not fishing for uninformed buyers <nt> - Don T 12:56:46 02/26/04 (1)
- I'm glad the people with enough disposable income to blow $5k on mid-fi amps have you on their side. - tom1356 13:07:06 02/26/04 (0)
- Another way the ad is misleading... - Jim Austin 10:35:49 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: Another way the ad is misleading... - Don T 11:00:53 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Thank you - osera 07:59:57 02/26/04 (0)
- Rights and logic VS. Owner emotion - tnelson 07:39:01 02/26/04 (0)
- Take 'Em To Court Ethan [nt] - Dr. Draz 07:16:52 02/26/04 (0)
- Come on, spill it... - Jim Austin 06:11:21 02/26/04 (0)
- I think the biggest issue here is..... - Redwing 05:32:40 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: I think the biggest issue here is..... - middleground 10:55:55 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Not that there was ever a worry... - Jim Willis 03:41:07 02/26/04 (0)
- I’m surprised there are actually people defending Cooper and Mcintosh - Caymus 23:09:48 02/25/04 (6)
- And I'm surpised people are bashing Mac based on so little info. - Tromatic 00:25:49 02/26/04 (5)
- Please list the "facts" that are in dispute.... (nt) - Sordidman 12:18:40 02/26/04 (3)
- Re: Please list the "facts" that are in dispute.... (nt) - Tromatic 13:37:45 02/26/04 (2)
- Well, for one thing... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:50:43 02/26/04 (0)
- We Have The Actual Transcripts Of Mr. Cooper's Letters AND The Documented Fact That The Ad Was Pulled By eBay... - Dr. Draz 14:09:18 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh won’t honor warranties like everyone else - Caymus 10:20:34 02/26/04 (0)
- Do you feel the love? It makes me want to rush right out and buy McIntosh. - tnelson 21:43:09 02/25/04 (0)
- Jeeez........ - photoguy 20:58:58 02/25/04 (6)
- I agree - Ken Perkins 09:02:24 02/26/04 (3)
- Re: I don't agree - Raiderman 13:34:36 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: I don't agree - photoguy 18:06:00 02/26/04 (0)
- Oh No....I Think The "Lack Of Sales" And Hassles Goes On The McIntosh Side On This One [nt] - Dr. Draz 09:13:44 02/26/04 (0)
- Agree. What a whiner. Also want to add... - Markw* 06:34:38 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Jeeez........ - FLZapped 05:57:48 02/26/04 (0)
- Post deletion started - Mei 20:54:13 02/25/04 (1)
- Probably limiting AA liability in a pending libel suit brought by Mac. - Tromatic 00:58:21 02/26/04 (0)
- Again for all thermal spazzes: I'll take your Mac gear, 1 cent on the buck. - Tromatic 19:58:19 02/25/04 (5)
- Remind me to make sure you are not on the jury if I ever wind up in court - Ivan303 20:18:17 02/25/04 (4)
- Re: Remind me to make sure you are not on the jury if I ever wind up in court - racerguy 05:51:50 02/26/04 (3)
- Could be.... - Ivan303 06:20:04 02/26/04 (2)
- Re: Could be.... - racerguy 15:55:18 02/26/04 (1)
- You are correct.... - Ivan303 16:22:27 02/26/04 (0)
- Modarators help! - Corbu 19:58:02 02/25/04 (1)
- Mommmeeeeee - Mei 20:42:44 02/25/04 (0)
- BOYCOTT OF McINTOSH EQUIPMENT - Raiderman 19:25:22 02/25/04 (3)
- I agree - I will never buy an $8k Mac amp that I only plan to keep for 2 wks. (nt) - Gentry 19:45:16 02/25/04 (2)
- LOL, good point! - rp1@surfnetusa.com 15:52:34 02/26/04 (0)
- Me either! no way!! nt - Elizabeth 20:53:09 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - Part 2 - oddmanout 18:57:18 02/25/04 (1)
- "Much ado about nothing" - Ivan303 19:11:53 02/25/04 (0)
- Beating a dead horse! - eargasm666@yahoo.com 18:03:23 02/25/04 (1)
- Huh? - Ivan303 18:10:15 02/25/04 (0)
- Congratulations for publicising this event - theaudiohobby 18:01:44 02/25/04 (0)
- Maybe...McIntosh - Mei 17:24:43 02/25/04 (0)
- "Sellers like you, who would willingly conceal the facts about their products" Patently untrue, you did disclose fully! - Colin 17:07:00 02/25/04 (0)
- is this interesting enough... - osera 16:46:17 02/25/04 (2)
- No - this is a stupid thread and it should die a quick death - Mark B. James 17:11:22 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: No - this is a stupid thread and it should die a quick death - Audioq 11:46:07 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - Part 2 - DaveV 15:49:59 02/25/04 (0)
- 50 years in business and they haven't learned a thing about audiophiles. - tom1356 15:30:42 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: 50 years in business and they haven't learned a thing about audiophiles. - Rich_A 21:58:16 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: 50 years in business and they haven't learned a thing about audiophiles. - tom1356 22:14:05 02/25/04 (0)
- Hmmm - Ralph 15:12:16 02/25/04 (0)
- Here is the Ebay ad - Ethannnn 14:21:41 02/25/04 (33)
- You clearly are lying in your ad! - Don T 20:25:15 02/25/04 (17)
- If the damn things were actually new, he would have described them as 'new', not 'like new'. - Methos 09:34:38 02/26/04 (5)
- They are "used" not "like new" because if the were "like new" they would have a warranty! - Don T 10:18:03 02/26/04 (4)
- Weak... - Charles Hansen 10:56:22 02/26/04 (0)
- Ah, but his amp does have a warranty! - Methos 10:55:19 02/26/04 (2)
- But the point is... - Redwing 17:16:20 02/26/04 (1)
- I'm in agreement on both points. - Methos 19:53:48 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: You clearly are lying in your ad! - middleground 05:17:11 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: You clearly are lying in your ad! - Redwing 05:13:16 02/26/04 (0)
- Be reasonable - Metralla 04:00:36 02/26/04 (0)
- Give Me Rhythm or Give Me a BREAK! - bwhite 22:53:07 02/25/04 (4)
- Amen! -nt - Raiderman 15:45:54 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: Give Me Rhythm or Give Me a BREAK! - Don T 08:42:25 02/26/04 (0)
- Bravo!...Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself [nt] - Dr. Draz 06:37:22 02/26/04 (1)
- agreed <nt> - Don T 08:43:11 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: You clearly are lying in your ad! -READ IT AGAIN!! - carbonman 20:44:52 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: You clearly are lying in your ad! -READ IT AGAIN!! - Dokter-Doug 07:14:23 02/26/04 (1)
- Good move, Herr Dokter!! - Methos 09:39:09 02/26/04 (0)
- Boycott McIntosh! - Raiderman 19:44:04 02/25/04 (0)
- There is no question you did not describe the amps as "not - audiogatorjim 17:21:04 02/25/04 (7)
- Re: There is no question you did not describe the amps as "not - Ivan303 17:40:47 02/25/04 (6)
- No, I am just saying that I bet there exist some bidders who - audiogatorjim 18:36:13 02/25/04 (5)
- The Principle, The Principle My Friend... - Dr. Draz 06:42:05 02/26/04 (1)
- In America, we have the right to choose our battles. I, for one - audiogatorjim 11:34:50 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: No, I am just saying that I bet there exist some bidders who - Ivan303 19:17:57 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: No, I am just saying that I bet there exist some bidders who - JimBop 20:08:20 02/25/04 (0)
- Well...I think some buyers may think the warranty would still - audiogatorjim 19:37:45 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: If that's it, sue 'em! - Matts 14:44:13 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Here is the Ebay ad - Brian Levy 14:43:35 02/25/04 (0)
- Did the ad ever say 'never installed' anywhere in the text? nt - Methos 14:31:59 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Here is the Ebay ad - Ethannnn 14:30:21 02/25/04 (2)
- Seems to me that the statement, "The manufacturer's warranty is non-transferable."... - Dalton 20:26:10 02/25/04 (0)
- Ok, lawyerboy must be confused, then. :-) nt - Methos 14:33:11 02/25/04 (0)
- DUILaywer and Lochrider were wrong.... - Charles Hansen 13:38:03 02/25/04 (13)
- Re: DUILaywer and Lochrider were wrong.... - Brian Levy 13:44:59 02/25/04 (12)
- Doesn't change my point one whit... - Charles Hansen 13:50:06 02/25/04 (11)
- Not necessarily - PabloP 13:58:25 02/25/04 (10)
- The "left hand -- right hand" problem - Bruce from DC 14:55:55 02/25/04 (8)
- Sales Manager WANTS to close down internet sales.... - Ivan303 18:33:27 02/25/04 (6)
- Re: Sales Manager WANTS to close down internet sales.... - Bruce from DC 08:00:14 02/26/04 (5)
- Re: Sales Manager WANTS to close down internet sales.... - Dr. Draz 08:12:24 02/26/04 (4)
- I guess I draw a different conclusion - Bruce from DC 11:35:57 02/26/04 (3)
- Re: I guess I draw a different conclusion - Ivan303 20:03:27 02/26/04 (0)
- Re: I guess I draw a different conclusion - Dr. Draz 12:04:12 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: I guess I draw a different conclusion - Bruce from DC 15:49:54 02/26/04 (1)
- I say, C2200/MC2102 combos for every poster, and then All is Forgiven! Are ya with me?? :-) nt - Methos 15:07:51 02/25/04 (0)
- So It's Clear Then...Both Mr Cooper And McIntosh Are Ass Puppets - Jointly And Severally...Now I Get It [nt] - Dr. Draz 14:23:55 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - Part 2 - dude 13:14:01 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - Part 2 - middleground 13:13:29 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - Part 2 - Brian Levy 13:37:34 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - Part 2 - Brian Levy 12:54:36 02/25/04 (5)
- 3/4 - PabloP 13:31:05 02/25/04 (4)
- Re: 3/4 - Brian Levy 13:49:08 02/25/04 (3)
- Re: 3/4 - PabloP 14:00:50 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: 3/4 - Brian Levy 14:25:45 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: Don't be so naive.... - Matts 17:26:33 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - No Kidding- what a jerk! - Matts 12:53:57 02/25/04 (1)
- Totally agreed, Mcintosh will be off from my shopping list forever. (nt) - Anfield 15:37:00 02/25/04 (0)
- What I can't figure out is WHY............ - Chuck Y 12:51:32 02/25/04 (2)
- Hmmm, I've Seen Something Similar Before... - Luminator 14:09:01 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: What I can't figure out is WHY............ - Stephæn 13:03:07 02/25/04 (0)
- Before I post my ad - Ethannnn 12:50:42 02/25/04 (11)
- Re: Before I post my ad - uw312@aol.com 14:33:23 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: who is stopping them?? - Matts 14:38:06 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: who is stopping them?? - uw312@aol.com 14:48:36 02/25/04 (1)
- "like new" search on ebay... - osera 13:11:43 02/25/04 (3)
- Re: "like new" search on ebay... - Ethannnn 13:17:02 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: "like new" search on ebay... - jwhite 13:34:38 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: "like new" search on ebay... - Matts 13:30:07 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Before I post my ad - Brian Levy 13:04:23 02/25/04 (2)
- Misinterpretation - Ethannnn 13:10:47 02/25/04 (1)
- Post the ad - Brian Levy 13:27:12 02/25/04 (0)
- Most folks here with knowledge of things legal......... - Chuck Y 12:55:19 02/25/04 (0)
- i'm shocked... - jealouse 12:46:00 02/25/04 (0)
- Don't forget to let us know when you get sued by Mac. - Tromatic 12:41:24 02/25/04 (0)
- This is turning into the dumbest freakin'.. - marc-homeslice 12:36:01 02/25/04 (9)
- "It sucks living in corporate "megopoly " America, don't it?!" - mikebake 13:46:00 02/25/04 (8)
- Re: "It sucks living in corporate "megopoly " America, don't it?!" - kentaja@yahoo.com 14:06:13 02/25/04 (7)
- Amen man.. - marc-homeslice 15:01:45 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: Amen man.. - Mr. H 11:42:13 02/27/04 (0)
- Re: "It sucks living in corporate "megopoly " America, don't it?!" - mikebake 14:56:23 02/25/04 (4)
- Guess you didn't own any Enron or Worldcom stock.. - marc-homeslice 15:07:05 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: Guess you didn't own any Enron or Worldcom stock.. - mikebake 15:11:23 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: "It sucks living in corporate "megopoly " America, don't it?!" - kentaja@yahoo.com 15:05:18 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: "It sucks living in corporate "megopoly " America, don't it?!" - mikebake 15:13:37 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: "What I have kept secret until now is, I HAVE PROOF THAT SUBSTANTIATES MY CLAIM." - Jay 12:21:50 02/25/04 (4)
- Ain't it odd? - Stephæn 12:49:12 02/25/04 (3)
- Not sure how relevant this is but... - Ethannnn 12:52:56 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: Not sure how relevant this is but... - Brian Levy 13:11:51 02/25/04 (0)
- I think you pretty much gave him permission ... - Stephæn 12:57:08 02/25/04 (0)
- The fallacy in the argument - Bruce from DC 12:18:07 02/25/04 (4)
- Re: The fallacy in the argument - Jim Willis 03:34:55 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: The answer, I think is at half.com - Matts 10:49:49 02/26/04 (0)
- So Bruce are the statements made by Cooper consistent with the letter of the law? - NonA 12:21:56 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: So Bruce are the statements made by Cooper consistent with the letter of the law? - Bruce from DC 12:49:47 02/25/04 (0)
- Perhaps I ommitted one crucial point - ethannnn 12:17:56 02/25/04 (0)
- Possible Hoax - TommyK 12:09:20 02/25/04 (13)
- Got a call back from Mr. Cooper - TommyK 18:43:27 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: He apparently did more than you say... - Matts 19:02:57 02/25/04 (0)
- Did you check Martindale-Hubble? This guy could be licensed outside of NY.... - Chuck Y 13:06:03 02/25/04 (0)
- I called Mr. Cooper, left message we shall - TommyK 12:54:26 02/25/04 (1)
- You'll note that he's AV rated. - Mark B. James 13:47:38 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Possible Hoax - slope 12:34:55 02/25/04 (2)
- I'm beginning to wonder, too ... - Stephæn 12:51:07 02/25/04 (1)
- Yeah.. and a LAWYER who... - bwhite 23:20:33 02/25/04 (0)
- McIntosh is owned by Clarion corp ... - bilbobaggins 12:28:34 02/25/04 (2)
- McIntosh is NOT owned by Clarion corp ... - Vinyl Rules! 15:29:08 02/26/04 (1)
- Re: McIntosh is NOT owned by Clarion corp ... - Dibble 02:41:21 02/27/04 (0)
- The McGate Affair or the Wellesien "War of the Mcs"? - NonA 12:13:51 02/25/04 (1)
- You might be on to - mikebake 12:13:19 02/25/04 (0)
- Im no law expert, but you've met a manufact. that decided to enforce applicable laws... - NonA 12:09:17 02/25/04 (0)
- Excellent, McIntosh admits their gear is "overpriced" - Mei 12:08:56 02/25/04 (0)
- Well...maybe - Tom 12:08:11 02/25/04 (0)
- My, my, Wayne Cooper is God! - Norm 12:04:45 02/25/04 (1)
- LOL! (nt) - Charles Hansen 13:40:11 02/25/04 (0)
- Well, it is typical..have a lawyer run your business.. - rick5 11:58:09 02/25/04 (3)
- Mac does have a disclaimer at thier site.. - slope 12:02:42 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: I LIKE that page! - Matts 13:49:01 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: I LIKE that page! - slope 14:51:37 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: Seems like Mr. Cooper's position is reasonable... - mkuller 11:52:38 02/25/04 (6)
- It is NOT Mr. Coopers job to protect the public. Period. His argument does - mikebake 12:08:17 02/25/04 (0)
- Ebay warranty policy.. - rick5 12:06:51 02/25/04 (0)
- I think its the principal.... <nt> - bwhite 11:59:03 02/25/04 (3)
- No, the principal is the one who whacks your ass with the paddle, for starting the cafeteria food fight.... <nt> - Methos 20:42:09 02/25/04 (2)
- principle - bwhite 23:09:26 02/25/04 (1)
- Hey, no problem...just doing my best 'school marm' impression! :-) nt - Methos 11:03:16 02/26/04 (0)
Follow Ups
- Ebay warranty policy.. - rick5 12:06:51 02/25/04 (0)
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