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I'll stick to this thread.

""Don't have enough data in front of me to complete the math, but these are looking like very, very small numbers......""peter

Indeed, they are. But so is 120 db below 30mV.

""I suspect the two effects exist in parallel at the same instant,""peter

Yes, they do..but for peltier, the highest efficiency occurs when the sides are the same temp, or the reverse temp, while the seebeck efficiency is the absolute worst when there is almost no gradient. So they don't exactly balance out.

What strikes me the most is the current dependence for heatflow, and not current times voltage of joule heating..

Now, to really open your eyes, Peter...

All along, I asked for technical discussion about the POSSIBILITY OF THIS EFFECT HAVING SIGNIFICANCE for the measured results of JC's..

I did not state that it is what is causing it...I asked if it was possible...to that I got "bull shit".

You are engaging in the technical aspects, which is a pleasant change from what JC did. Thank you ..you are at least willing to entertain those aspects without glibly dissing me..

Cheers, John




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