In Reply to: Re: "significant advancements such as CD" There's your answer. posted by Dan Banquer on August 22, 2003 at 09:41:23:
Many of the recent recordings I've heard are compressed to death; the only goal seems to be to get the level as high as possible. This (unfortunately) also seems to be the norm for concert PA management -- crank everything up until it's simply a wall of distortion with zero dynamic range.With a few exceptions, it seems like we're going backwards, not forwards...
I wonder if the convenience/portability/durability of CD has contributed to this? For example, lots of people (including me) play CDs in their cars, where you have to use compression or you lose music down in the noise.
BTW, in the CD-is-good-or-evil debate, there's one thing that is rarely talked about:
The CD was pushed to market with whatever sample rate was possible given the silicon available at the time, not the sample rate that was determined to be appropriate for good sound. Given the Moore's Law rate of chip improvement, a 12-24 month delay in the release of CD might have given us a far better medium with less sonic compromise.
Anyone who looks you in the eye and claims that a brickwall filter at 20kHz and a 16-bit sample rate is "perfect sound" is deluding themselves. Anyone looked at the distortion spectrum of a CD player at -40dB (where a lot of the music is) instead of at 0dB?
Notice that Sony is now touting the audibe benefits of SACDs extended bandwidth? But wait, we can't hear anything above 20kHz.........
Peter
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- But is recording technique getting better? - Commuteman 10:39:49 08/22/03 (56)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - Dan Banquer 11:42:17 08/22/03 (1)
- Yep, there are some great recordings coming out - Commuteman 13:37:16 08/22/03 (0)
- You are correct, sir, and to the point. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:27:38 08/22/03 (0)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - jneutron 10:46:40 08/22/03 (52)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - eico1 12:46:32 08/22/03 (29)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - jneutron 13:49:58 08/22/03 (28)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - Ted Smith 14:16:41 08/22/03 (27)
- Hi Ted - jneutron 19:30:28 08/22/03 (1)
- Re: Hi Ted - Ted Smith 20:48:26 08/22/03 (0)
- Did we just go around in a cricle? - Commuteman 15:58:07 08/22/03 (24)
- Re: Did we just go around in a cricle? - Ted Smith 20:59:05 08/22/03 (2)
- Yep, I'm with ya - Commuteman 21:41:43 08/22/03 (1)
- Re: Yep, I'm with ya - Ted Smith 22:01:13 08/22/03 (0)
- Re: Did we just go around in a cricle? - jneutron 19:35:34 08/22/03 (20)
- Re: Did we just go around in a cricle? - Ted Smith 20:52:47 08/22/03 (19)
- Re: Did we just go around in a cricle? - jneutron 04:45:33 08/23/03 (18)
- Re: Did we just go around in a cricle? - Ted Smith 04:48:34 08/23/03 (17)
- Hi Ted. - jneutron 05:03:30 08/23/03 (16)
- Re: Hi Ted. - Ted Smith 05:58:49 08/23/03 (0)
- Re: Hi Ted. - Ted Smith 05:30:36 08/23/03 (0)
- Re: Hi Ted. - Ted Smith 05:16:51 08/23/03 (13)
- Re: Hi Ted. - jneutron 07:02:30 08/23/03 (12)
- Re: Hi Ted. - Ted Smith 07:24:03 08/23/03 (11)
- Code correction - Ted Smith 19:22:23 08/23/03 (0)
- Re: Hi Ted. what you do??edit a typo? - jneutron 07:44:47 08/23/03 (9)
- Re: Hi Ted. what you do??edit a typo? - Ted Smith 08:09:33 08/23/03 (8)
- Re: Hi Ted. what you do??edit a typo? - jneutron 09:13:54 08/23/03 (7)
- Re: Hi Ted. what you do??edit a typo? - Ted Smith 09:41:40 08/23/03 (6)
- Re: Hi Ted. what you do??edit a typo? - jneutron 10:28:39 08/23/03 (5)
- Re: Hi Ted. what you do??edit a typo? - Ted Smith 11:25:20 08/23/03 (4)
- What's confusing to most people about this - Commuteman 17:37:13 08/23/03 (2)
- Re: What's confusing to most people about this - Ted Smith 19:13:42 08/23/03 (1)
- Re: What's confusing to most people about this - jneutron 07:47:01 08/25/03 (0)
- Re: Hi Ted. what you do??edit a typo? - john curl 13:20:02 08/23/03 (0)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - Dan Banquer 11:37:43 08/22/03 (5)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - jneutron 11:55:59 08/22/03 (4)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - Dan Banquer 12:01:35 08/22/03 (3)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - jneutron 12:08:45 08/22/03 (2)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - Dan Banquer 12:27:04 08/22/03 (1)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - jneutron 12:33:45 08/22/03 (0)
- you do know I was joking, right.....? - Commuteman 11:26:28 08/22/03 (1)
- Yep..nt - jneutron 11:51:30 08/22/03 (0)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - mfc 11:05:58 08/22/03 (13)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - jneutron 11:13:26 08/22/03 (12)
- This I do not understand.... - jensw 11:09:30 08/25/03 (6)
- Re: This I do not understand.... - jneutron 13:23:36 08/25/03 (5)
- Re: This I do not understand.... - jensw 14:29:23 08/25/03 (4)
- The interesting connection - Commuteman 17:38:21 08/25/03 (1)
- Re: The interesting connection - jneutron 18:38:17 08/25/03 (0)
- Re: This I do not understand.... - jneutron 16:41:29 08/25/03 (1)
- Let's leave it like this, here, way in and down. NT. - jensw 19:19:18 08/25/03 (0)
- I like this explanation - Commuteman 14:19:04 08/22/03 (2)
- Re: I like this explanation - john curl 16:00:27 08/22/03 (1)
- Re: I like this explanation - jneutron 08:07:22 08/25/03 (0)
- Re: But is recording technique getting better? - mfc 11:26:46 08/22/03 (1)
- Now there's an interesting question.... - Commuteman 11:28:55 08/22/03 (0)