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In Reply to: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? posted by Ethannnn on February 23, 2004 at 07:12:05:
...if indeed McIntosh is "jerking" it's customers around in this manner we all should know. I love McIntosh products (I only own vintage stuff at this time) but I sure would like to know if they have taken a different position on customer support and satisfaction, or lack thereof.That's a lot of years of hard work in establishing one of the best names in audio to throw away because a lawyer/management thinks it's more important to deal with petty things than it is to maintain the wonderful reputation McIntosh has established.
Bottom line is if this is true and accurate we should know about it and act however each individual feels they should regarding any future financial support of McIntosh and related companies. If McIntosh did not act unreasonably we should know this also. So, PLEASE let us know the final outcome.
Sorry to go on like this but I think this is a very important situation for us audio people. To threaten a customer with legal action and then get Ebay to support the attorney is inexcusable and both parties should be accountable for their actions with apologies forthcoming, assuming they are in error. By the way, even if the ad "accidentally" infered a warrantee what's so difficult about McIntosh writing the seller and asking for clarification or correction of his Ebay listing. AA has more power (AC and DC) than we may realize when it comes to making a company/manufacturer acountable.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Ethannnn 07:12:05 02/23/04 (253)
- To those who disagree with me - Ethannnn 06:22:07 02/25/04 (4)
- It's not that I agree or disagree, I hjust don't understand... - slope 08:41:19 02/25/04 (3)
- Re: It's not that I agree or disagree, I hjust don't understand... - Ethannnn 08:55:35 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: It's not that I agree or disagree, I hjust don't understand... - Don T 09:19:55 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: It's not that I agree or disagree, I hjust don't understand... - slope 09:10:46 02/25/04 (0)
- Kudos to Don T. - lochrider 05:45:23 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: Kudos to Don T. - Ethannnn 06:05:32 02/25/04 (1)
- Apology - Ethannnn 06:14:37 02/25/04 (1)
- Just re-post the add worded as follows: - max-greece 05:00:42 02/25/04 (0)
- FWIW from the McIntosh site... - slope 03:58:11 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Loki 02:43:07 02/25/04 (0)
- You should be asking what you should have done. - Mark-W 22:38:34 02/24/04 (5)
- I agree with you 100%. - KeneallyFan 08:18:27 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: You should be asking what you should have done. - slope 03:24:03 02/25/04 (3)
- I see your point, but... - Mark-W 09:01:16 02/25/04 (2)
- Re: I see your point, but... - slope 09:41:22 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: I see your point, but... - Mark-W 11:26:52 02/25/04 (0)
- This thread should make it real hard to sell those amps. - tom1356 20:50:04 02/24/04 (0)
- every time i was ripped off on e-bay, they never went and got the other guy for me. - zuki 12:58:33 02/24/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Don T 09:28:49 02/24/04 (22)
- "Obviously they felt your ad did not make it clear..." - Tom 13:45:34 02/24/04 (2)
- Re: "Obviously they felt your ad did not make it clear..." - Don T 21:05:36 02/24/04 (1)
- "Why the hell else would they ask him to modify his ad..." - Tom 06:52:53 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Dr. Draz 09:42:22 02/24/04 (18)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Ethannnn 10:59:01 02/24/04 (5)
- You are also... - Don T 13:36:48 02/24/04 (4)
- Re: You are also... - Ethannnn 14:33:59 02/24/04 (3)
- Re: You are also... - Don T 15:03:29 02/24/04 (2)
- Re: You are also... - Ethannnn 15:07:45 02/24/04 (1)
- Come to think of it.... - Don T 21:38:12 02/24/04 (1)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Don T 09:57:08 02/24/04 (11)
- ever heard of caveat emptor - theaudiohobby 11:26:20 02/24/04 (0)
- You want to protect the stupid from making bad audio choices? - tom1356 11:04:48 02/24/04 (0)
- what Mac should do IMO.... - NonA 08:51:23 02/24/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Bruce from DC 08:07:40 02/24/04 (0)
- As a business litigator with IP experience ... - lochrider 07:47:02 02/24/04 (2)
- I recommend a call to the marketing manager at MacIntosh... - Jim Stoneburner 17:54:46 02/24/04 (0)
- Thank you! - Terry 13:37:11 02/24/04 (0)
- I can't help but ask 1) When you purchased the amps, you - audiogatorjim 07:43:26 02/24/04 (5)
- Re: I can't help but ask 1) When you purchased the amps, you - Dr. Draz 07:52:00 02/24/04 (4)
- how about; "by ommission materially misrepresenting any salient aspects of the sale"? nt - Duilawyer 18:56:04 02/24/04 (1)
- They don't have any right to force him to put anything in an - audiogatorjim 09:03:44 02/24/04 (2)
- Re: They don't have any right to force him to put anything in an - theaudiohobby 11:30:22 02/24/04 (1)
- Clearly, Mc was in the wrong in this instance. But, do they - audiogatorjim 14:16:44 02/24/04 (0)
- I can't help but wonder... - Duke 23:03:59 02/23/04 (4)
- Re: I can't help but wonder... - Chuck Y 08:05:10 02/24/04 (1)
- Re: I can't help but wonder... - Duke 17:45:00 02/24/04 (0)
- Great advice, Duke, from a legal and moral view.. - Duilawyer 06:47:53 02/24/04 (1)
- Thanks, Duilawyer. And what you said here... - Duke 21:03:35 02/24/04 (0)
- Their rwebsite asks for comments; how about we let em know? - Duilawyer 22:15:30 02/23/04 (0)
- If you provide poor service, they'll tell ten people - driver 21:16:47 02/23/04 (8)
- Re: If you provide poor service, they'll tell ten people - Ivan303 06:08:38 02/24/04 (5)
- I doubt that...If word got out that Mc had made an attempt to influence AA's content.. - Methos 10:48:57 02/24/04 (4)
- If Rod gets a call... - Ivan303 12:29:46 02/24/04 (3)
- ...and 204 (ok, maybe not quite that many) posters will ask why...and draw their own conclusions if no explanation... - Methos 12:40:14 02/24/04 (2)
- In a week the thread is on page 2... - Ivan303 14:27:41 02/24/04 (1)
- No doubt, once it's in the archives few will miss it...but by then almost all the damage to Mc has already occurred. nt - Methos 15:08:07 02/24/04 (0)
- Thiel: Where the customer is always right. - Duilawyer 22:09:03 02/23/04 (0)
- Oh no! They're MONSTER MASKS!!!!! - Jack Seaton 21:45:20 02/23/04 (0)
- McIntosh Website quotes.... - toledo 21:04:17 02/23/04 (1)
- McIntosh = Bose! ...buncha ASSWIPES!! (nt) - Otis W 20:54:22 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - DaveV 20:32:59 02/23/04 (0)
- Thanks for sharing... - geof 20:31:25 02/23/04 (0)
- Hmmm, I wonder if ethannnn's original post will rank as receiving the highest number of responses. nt - DannyB 19:47:24 02/23/04 (3)
- I Recollect That I Had One That Went To 229 Responses [nt] - Dr. Draz 06:09:17 02/24/04 (1)
- Jealous, Draz? (nt) - Gregg 06:21:07 02/24/04 (1)
- I doubt it - driver 21:57:40 02/23/04 (0)
- What I think is critical is that we get an accurate and final disposition on this matter because.... - DannyB 19:26:17 02/23/04 (0)
- As a lawyer, and someone who went through this, the key is - Duilawyer 18:30:39 02/23/04 (9)
- Nice job Dui! - Gregg 06:25:38 02/24/04 (3)
- Didn't get banned from outside. - Duilawyer 06:52:09 02/24/04 (2)
- Thanks again for your insight - Gregg 07:22:05 02/24/04 (1)
- De nada' nt - Duilawyer 13:06:41 02/24/04 (0)
- Don't forget Digital and DVDAudiobahn! - Chris Garrett 19:34:28 02/23/04 (4)
- How about a private reply to my private posts? - Duilawyer 19:39:40 02/23/04 (3)
- Fire away.... - Chris Garrett 20:59:56 02/23/04 (2)
- I haven't sent anything! I thought the comment button was going to you. nt - Duilawyer 06:54:54 02/24/04 (1)
- It does.... - Chris Garrett 11:41:08 02/24/04 (0)
- What's interesting to me is - Doublej 18:16:23 02/23/04 (0)
- Has anyone emailed McIntosh to verify any of this? - bwhite 17:57:33 02/23/04 (0)
- Imagine charging your new customers so much that you can afford to pay a lawyer to harrass your old customers. - tom1356 17:46:07 02/23/04 (1)
- Imagine buying amps like this and then selling them 2 wks later at a loss. - Gentry 17:51:40 02/23/04 (0)
- Public Relations Nightmare - Gregg 17:13:28 02/23/04 (2)
- Amen. And the longer this thread goes, the more foolish Mc - Duilawyer 07:02:30 02/24/04 (0)
- Re: Public Relations Nightmare - Ivan303 17:51:15 02/23/04 (0)
- When you are all done freaking, I'll take your Mac gear 10 cents on the buck. - Tromatic 17:08:45 02/23/04 (1)
- :-) (nt) - racerguy 17:28:03 02/23/04 (0)
- Glad I went with Bryston (nt) - Corndog71 17:02:40 02/23/04 (0)
- That a--hole lawyer must have needed... - Tom 15:00:25 02/23/04 (15)
- You are way off. Lawyers don't invent work. - Duilawyer 18:16:44 02/23/04 (14)
- Disagree strongly based on personal experience... - Charles Hansen 20:28:33 02/23/04 (13)
- Dui's right here - PabloP 22:23:26 02/23/04 (4)
- Not so sure that I agree... - Charles Hansen 08:14:10 02/24/04 (2)
- Your story does not contradict my point-read it carefully - Duilawyer 15:59:29 02/24/04 (0)
- Well, in fairness - PabloP 09:27:43 02/24/04 (0)
- McIntosh has very deep pockets as they are owned by D&M Holdings... - bhvf 04:37:50 02/24/04 (0)
- I accept your offer to bet; 1 years subscription to AA? - Duilawyer 20:53:56 02/23/04 (5)
- Interesting way to twist my words... - Charles Hansen 21:50:57 02/23/04 (4)
- Re: twistin' the night away - Bruce from DC 14:47:26 02/24/04 (3)
- Bad math... - Charles Hansen 18:58:00 02/24/04 (1)
- Re: I was terrible at math . . . - Bruce from DC 06:03:29 02/25/04 (0)
- Re: twistin' the night away - Rini 14:58:26 02/24/04 (0)
- You actaully are agreeing; the attorney did not pick you out - Duilawyer 20:46:59 02/23/04 (1)
- Here is another example of a law firm... - Charles Hansen 22:00:02 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Hirsch 14:35:35 02/23/04 (2)
- And state law may preempt McInt's slipperiness. - Duilawyer 18:51:30 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: And state law may preempt McInt's slipperiness. - Hirsch 19:45:36 02/24/04 (0)
- The following is the response by Mr. Cooper to inquiries by another Inmate and myself ... - Neil49 14:23:43 02/23/04 (31)
- A few corrections - Ethannnn 18:07:43 02/23/04 (0)
- "First we kill the lawyers" - old fatboy 15:56:12 02/23/04 (2)
- You kill the lawyers to promote anarchy - dvb 17:40:43 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: You kill the lawyers to promote anarchy - middleground 05:58:46 02/24/04 (0)
- What's really funny - koop 15:37:05 02/23/04 (5)
- Section 43 = 15 USC 1125 (" . . . false descriptions forbidden") - Mark B. James 15:55:04 02/23/04 (4)
- I Utterly fail To See Where And How, In Any Way, Ethan's Attempted Sale Violates This!... - Dr. Draz 16:04:12 02/23/04 (3)
- You owe me an apology. - Mark B. James 12:05:59 02/24/04 (1)
- The ad does not make clear that the unit is used, and out of warranty. nt - Duilawyer 18:47:49 02/23/04 (1)
- It Says "TWO WEEKS OLD"... - Dr. Draz 06:30:38 02/24/04 (0)
- Lanham Trademark Act?? - bwhite 15:30:48 02/23/04 (1)
- We're all going to jail : ) nt - Budrew 16:39:44 02/23/04 (0)
- How many AA members would now recommend McIntosh to their friends? - Double Trouble 15:25:45 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: The following is the response by Mr. Cooper to inquiries by another Inmate and myself ... - Ivan303 15:20:43 02/23/04 (2)
- Memo to Coop: - Tom 15:42:19 02/23/04 (1)
- Imagien how much $$ it would be worth for Mc to abandon that policy? - Duilawyer 19:31:48 02/23/04 (0)
- What a load of legalistic crap! - Rick W 15:14:22 02/23/04 (0)
- I could accept most of the response, but the explanation of non-transferral of warranty was downright silly... - Methos 15:05:56 02/23/04 (4)
- And I have no idea what work would definitely sound - Duilawyer 19:34:01 02/23/04 (3)
- That's what I thought you were saying, on HRH. nt :-) - Methos 19:57:43 02/23/04 (2)
- You wuz,and iz, right.. nt - Duilawyer 20:54:50 02/23/04 (1)
- Doesn't that lead to the conclusion that you believe that no SACDs should have been released? nt - Methos 08:24:32 02/24/04 (0)
- You Have Some Chutspa !!!... - Dr. Draz 15:05:22 02/23/04 (4)
- Chutzpa with a z; and I BOUGHT new McIntosh - Duilawyer 19:44:08 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: Chutzpa with a z; and I BOUGHT new McIntosh - Ethannnn 07:11:16 02/24/04 (0)
- I never thought I would say this but ditto Dr. Draz nt - Norm 17:06:17 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: I never thought I would say this but ditto Dr. Draz nt - Dr. Draz 18:02:36 02/23/04 (0)
- I guess that there's only one response to all that, Neil - - Todd A. 14:41:01 02/23/04 (1)
- Ooooh, Yeah Baby, Yeah! Shagariffic! nt - subcoolman 16:23:55 02/23/04 (0)
- But the biggest reason for not transferring warranty - Terry 14:35:04 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: The following is the response by Mr. Cooper to inquiries by another Inmate and myself ... - uw312@aol.com 14:34:54 02/23/04 (0)
- You send up warning flags to manufacturers by the amount of sales you have made. - Edp 12:53:47 02/23/04 (5)
- youve gota love US sales law and protectionism - chris_w 14:30:59 02/23/04 (1)
- Well...at least... - Tom 15:52:19 02/23/04 (0)
- His A'gon feedback includes a number of BUYS, not just sales. nt - Rick W 13:45:02 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: You send up warning flags to manufacturers by the amount of sales you have made. - Budrew 13:30:31 02/23/04 (1)
- He could also be a millionaire... - RGA 14:17:32 02/23/04 (0)
- tortious interference of contract - koop 12:52:44 02/23/04 (0)
- Not that McIntosh's or Ebay's name was very good before, but this is bullying by both - Norm 12:44:23 02/23/04 (4)
- McIntosh the bully; and eBay the coward. nt - Duilawyer 22:18:49 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Not that McIntosh's or Ebay's name was very good before, but this is bullying by both - Ivan303 15:28:38 02/23/04 (2)
- No, Nader is not the solution. - Norm 17:02:07 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: No, Nader is not the solution. - Ivan303 18:58:58 02/23/04 (0)
- Only CRAP companies don't transfer warranties.... - RGA 11:27:46 02/23/04 (17)
- RGA, this is tantamount... - Jimmy C. 17:35:29 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: RGA, this is tantamount... - RGA 19:16:51 02/23/04 (0)
- ...weak kneed wussy? - Hepcat 11:37:37 02/23/04 (14)
- "Satisfy The McIntosh Guy???!!!"... - Dr. Draz 11:50:05 02/23/04 (11)
- So he can sell the thing & move on - J 16:08:43 02/23/04 (8)
- Most of us fight for our rights - Rini 14:53:26 02/24/04 (5)
- You pick & choose yr battles, I'll pick & choose mine, thank you very much - J 21:21:11 02/24/04 (0)
- I don't really believe Mc gives a darn about the resale of - audiogatorjim 15:10:29 02/24/04 (3)
- It's not so bad, IF .... - Rini 15:27:10 02/24/04 (2)
- Are you mad at Mc or ebay? Or both? I think Mc's strongarm - audiogatorjim 18:51:08 02/24/04 (1)
- The lack of uniformity is an issue - J 21:01:49 02/24/04 (1)
- I agree with you and it appears as if we are in the minority - audiogatorjim 14:25:23 02/24/04 (0)
- Re: So he can sell the thing & move on - Dr. Draz 17:06:36 02/23/04 (0)
- This must be some prankster... - RGA 12:01:42 02/23/04 (1)
- Maybe The McIntosh Lawyer Is The "McLawyer" Of The Bar ... - Dr. Draz 12:35:04 02/23/04 (0)
- Why? - RGA 11:42:42 02/23/04 (1)
- As my boss says, Gov.'t by the corp., of the corp. and for the corp. - DAT 13:03:48 02/23/04 (0)
- Did you pay retail? - Jim Austin 11:20:58 02/23/04 (3)
- What does it matter what he paid? - RGA 11:54:22 02/23/04 (2)
- It matters because... - Jim Austin 13:51:51 02/23/04 (0)
- I can't believe - RGA 12:03:08 02/23/04 (0)
- I'm confused... - Fisherdude 11:13:03 02/23/04 (2)
- Though how many of those were still in production - DAT 13:07:47 02/23/04 (0)
- Very good point! - subcoolman 11:50:02 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Unless you claimed the warrantee is transferable, it's caveat emptor...(nt) - mkuller 10:54:54 02/23/04 (0)
- In California, are warrantees transferable? - Headwound Harry 10:30:30 02/23/04 (0)
- I'm 100% with Dr. Draz on this. - Rick W 10:25:22 02/23/04 (19)
- Can't make a call without seeing the ad... - Ivan303 10:33:07 02/23/04 (18)
- Here's The Ad On Audiogon... - Dr. Draz 10:39:19 02/23/04 (17)
- Re: Here's The Ad On Audiogon... - driver8 12:26:16 02/23/04 (11)
- Of course - RGA 12:36:52 02/23/04 (3)
- Are you seriously questioning the life cycle of McIntosh - audiogatorjim 14:31:57 02/24/04 (2)
- Re: Are you seriously questioning the life cycle of McIntosh - RGA 20:51:01 02/24/04 (1)
- As a followup, I don't particularly like the McIntosh ss amps - audiogatorjim 05:50:59 02/25/04 (0)
- What's today's exchange rate on the drachma?... - Neil49 12:33:10 02/23/04 (6)
- My Attorney Will Be... - Dr. Draz 12:38:51 02/23/04 (5)
- If you're in the US you might win... - RGA 14:14:08 02/23/04 (4)
- Let me get this straight. You buy more insurance 'cuz ya believe every urban legend that comes down the pike? - axolotl 23:53:10 02/23/04 (3)
- Re: Let me get this straight. You buy more insurance 'cuz ya believe every urban legend that comes down the pike? - RGA 21:08:03 02/24/04 (2)
- No argument from me that healthcare in the US is expensive. - axolotl 14:26:15 02/25/04 (1)
- Re: No argument from me that healthcare in the US is expensive. - RGA 18:22:15 02/26/04 (0)
- Looks like they are trying to prevent a grey market - Mark B. James 11:12:25 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Here's The Ad On Audiogon... - Ethannnn 10:49:38 02/23/04 (1)
- Mcintosh didn't object to that one...(nt) - Ivan303 10:41:25 02/23/04 (2)
- They probably just haven't seen it yet (nt) - Sordidman 10:58:46 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Maybe They Did And Audiogon Had Some Balls... - Dr. Draz 10:56:19 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Frank 10:25:19 02/23/04 (0)
- A manufacturer has no business in the second hand market... - Budrew 10:24:25 02/23/04 (3)
- Good points - Sordidman 11:27:27 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: A manufacturer has no business in the second hand market... - Ivan303 10:44:53 02/23/04 (1)
- Why not? - RGA 12:28:00 02/23/04 (0)
- This seems so self-evident - BillH 09:42:45 02/23/04 (0)
- It seems the poster also has an ad on Audiogon. - bwhite 09:22:35 02/23/04 (6)
- Re: It seems the poster also has an ad on Audiogon. - Chuck Y 09:39:49 02/23/04 (5)
- If your laws supercede freedom here then Anarchy would be a good thing!! NT - RGA 12:14:14 02/23/04 (0)
- Considering laws are passed specifically to prevent the - Sordidman 10:17:56 02/23/04 (0)
- I'm no lawyer but...!!! - bwhite 09:48:42 02/23/04 (2)
- Why? - RGA 12:21:02 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: I'm no lawyer but...!!! - Chuck Y 10:05:51 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Real question: why limit the warranty so much? - Matts 08:54:27 02/23/04 (1)
- Yah Matts kick their ass!(nt) - fortysomething 10:29:33 02/23/04 (0)
- Thank you, McIntosh lawyer... - Jay 08:41:35 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: Thank you, McIntosh lawyer... - Ethannnn 08:54:38 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Haoleb 07:51:33 02/23/04 (9)
- There's A MUCH Bigger Principle Here At Stake... - Dr. Draz 07:55:02 02/23/04 (8)
- Re: There's A MUCH Bigger Principle Here At Stake... - braillediver 08:00:31 02/23/04 (7)
- The ONLY way this would be misrepresentation is if the seller - RGA 11:40:19 02/23/04 (0)
- What I don't see is any evidence whatsoever......... - Chuck Y 08:18:42 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: There's A MUCH Bigger Principle Here At Stake... - Dr. Draz 08:07:27 02/23/04 (4)
- As an occassional buyer of used goods on the internet, I'm siding with McIntosh on this - Mark B. James 10:34:05 02/23/04 (3)
- Hey Mark... - SteveB 11:11:28 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: As an occassional buyer of used goods on the internet, I'm siding with McIntosh on this - Dr. Draz 10:48:49 02/23/04 (1)
- You assume a lot. (nt) - Mark B. James 11:08:04 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - neolith 07:38:34 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Ethannnn 08:45:36 02/23/04 (0)
- Oddly? - braillediver 07:25:01 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: Oddly? - Ethannnn 07:36:49 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - reb 07:19:08 02/23/04 (13)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - Dr. Draz 07:44:45 02/23/04 (12)
- Agree... - RGA 11:31:11 02/23/04 (0)
- Sue Ebay for what? - J 09:08:35 02/23/04 (4)
- Re: Sue Ebay for what? - Dr. Draz 09:26:01 02/23/04 (3)
- Re: Sue Ebay for what? - J 14:12:12 02/23/04 (0)
- But what you may not know about intellectual property laws........ - Chuck Y 09:47:33 02/23/04 (1)
- Since you already stated you ain't a lawyer, what the hell are you talking about?! I echo Dr. Draz' comments below. nt - Rick W 13:37:12 02/23/04 (0)
- Re: Mcintosh lawyer harassing me - What should I do? - reb 07:56:27 02/23/04 (5)
- Yup... - Dr. Draz 08:04:04 02/23/04 (4)
- Re: Yup... - reb 08:17:43 02/23/04 (3)
- Animal farm - 996turbo 09:13:40 02/23/04 (2)
- Re: Animal farm - Ethannnn 09:28:03 02/23/04 (1)
- Re: Animal farm - wjgruenewald 13:55:00 02/23/04 (0)
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