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Re: They are not subjectives.

"No, their subjective evaluation is no different than for other parameters such frequency response or SPLs"

How can you measure a loss of resolution? Dynamics, maybe but only with tests that don't really exist at the moment (for example measuring dynamic or power compression with a sudden burst to simulate real music transients). I have seen a paper on thermal compression and they found that at normal levels the speakers had only small differences in compression. However, one or the other speaker will SOUND more compressed than the other, which suggests that something was being missed in the measurements that were being made. At high levels often the woofer begins to compress first (this was always a test in Audio way back when and invariably the woofer would poop out before the mid and tweeter...at around 120 db though). The instantaneous shifts are not indicated by such a test and the ear seems to be sensitive to the difference.

"At any rate that is besides the issue, the point is that those parameters are in fact measureable"

They may be measureable but are they relevant?

"And we are back again discussing listener perception and objective measured performance and all the associated baggage"

Naturally because until there is a solid correlation between the two it will be the core issue.


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