In Reply to: Our antagonist weaseled out again; that, coupled with David Aitkin's notable takedown of his illogic... posted by clarkjohnsen on July 30, 2007 at 08:14:54:
when a man who claims to have a degree in physics, and claims to have been a project engineer for the Mars landers accepts Posey's mathematical model. It is doubly sad when that man, who has for years been avoiding any 'hard' answers, claims to be a 'scientist'. To resort to name calling and insults is not really the 'scientific' way, nor is it productive in any way. It is simply a reflection of that person's character and his utter contempt for the sharing of knowledge and a refusal to move forward.
Over a year ago I warned you that such outbursts actually demean your reputation and casts you in a very unfavorable light, ruining your credibility. That was offered out of sincere respect and concern. That you have chosen to ignore such warnings with rather flippant replies and seem to have to constantly make "stalker" alerts, well, makes you appear even more ludicrous. It is a conscious choice which you and only you have made.
What you may not know is that Posey and I have had pleasant exchanges off forum. I would rather preserve such a relationship, as it were, rather than to lash out for a few seconds of vindication, which, in the overall scheme of things is meaningless, trifle, and childish (at least to me).
I ask difficult questions sometimes, and it may frustrate some. In my thinking, saying 'I do not know' is no mortal sin. Some of my most brilliant friends, PHD's in various fields from molecular biology to cosmology will say "I don't know." I do not hold it against them, and I rather admire their honesty in saying so.
In your example, I thought it rather poor because at the very least Einstein and Lemaitre or whomever, demonstrates a predictability of events even before practical application proved the theory right. I find that very important in determining causality. The fact that the math was difficult to disprove makes it easier to verify, but I am sure as a physics major that would and should have been very obvious to you.
It is possible to create a mathematical model before 'proof' is found, and it is also possible to have observational data and then to construct a working hypothesis and then a model, usually mathematical. This does not rule out any Beltist observations or tweaks. I was simply questioning the causality and there is where I have my doubts, from my experimentation and observation.
As far as a search for 'improved' sound, I am not afraid to try unusual 'tweaks', and I have reported such observations here and elsewhere. I do my own speculation and these are based on usually years of trial and error. PWB states that they have had 25 years of experience I can honestly say I have the same amount of time and perhaps even more in certain applications. Does that make for any further validation? In my mind, no, it does not. I do have a working hypothesis for some effects, however, and it should be measurable and replicable, even if I lack the required instrumentation.
I simply do not not understand your fear to confront the unknown. It takes work, and it takes time, but it is nothing to be afraid of.
Stu
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Follow Ups
- It is a sad time - unclestu52 12:42:11 07/30/07 (52)
- Posey's Doubly-Sad Mathematical Model & The Mars Lunar Lander - Posy Rorer 20:38:51 07/30/07 (50)
- "I'm not sure why he is [an antagonist] to you." - clarkjohnsen 08:23:23 07/31/07 (45)
- Hatfield vs. McCoy: The Polarity Years - Posy Rorer 11:15:12 07/31/07 (44)
- All basically true, except that "it can only be determined subjectively". - clarkjohnsen 09:35:01 08/01/07 (0)
- RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy: The Polarity Years - rick_m 20:11:20 07/31/07 (1)
- RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy: The Polarity Years - Posy Rorer 22:27:48 07/31/07 (0)
- RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - unclestu52 13:49:35 07/31/07 (40)
- RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - Posy Rorer 16:20:50 07/31/07 (39)
- RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - unclestu52 18:30:32 07/31/07 (38)
- RE: I now understand the emphasis on amplitude measurements over time measurements - rick_m 19:56:03 07/31/07 (19)
- This very problem was fingered as a culprit in The Wood Effect (1988). - clarkjohnsen 10:14:16 08/01/07 (0)
- RE: I now understand the emphasis on amplitude measurements over time measurements - unclestu52 20:48:42 07/31/07 (17)
- RE: I now understand the emphasis on amplitude measurements over time measurements - rick_m 22:29:17 07/31/07 (16)
- Usually inverting the polarity - unclestu52 01:36:44 08/01/07 (15)
- RE: Usually inverting the polarity - rick_m 07:58:41 08/01/07 (14)
- See how "they" have been messing with you? Just as with polarity! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:17:21 08/01/07 (13)
- Still waiting to know who "they" are.... -nt - rick_m 11:56:28 08/02/07 (5)
- "They" are Them; haven't you seen the movie? nt - clarkjohnsen 12:00:03 08/02/07 (4)
- I'm confused. I thought "Them" was Van Morrison's old band? -nt - Posy Rorer 22:05:26 08/02/07 (1)
- Them too. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:26:25 08/03/07 (0)
- RE: "They" are Them; haven't you seen the movie? nt - rick_m 13:10:05 08/02/07 (1)
- It's a wretched movie indeed, but highly informative. I'm with you on The Simpsons. In fact... - clarkjohnsen 07:20:48 08/03/07 (0)
- Actually, I don't see... - rick_m 11:33:23 08/01/07 (6)
- Question: Do the "speaker guys" ever tell us that they're selling phase incoherencers? - clarkjohnsen 11:41:59 08/01/07 (5)
- RE: Question: Do the "speaker guys" ever tell us that they're selling phase incoherencers? - rick_m 13:50:21 08/01/07 (4)
- What you say, was already well-known back in the Seventies and Eighties. - clarkjohnsen 08:43:08 08/02/07 (3)
- What WASN'T covered in 'The Wood Effect'? - rick_m 10:11:00 08/02/07 (2)
- Answer: What WAS, was anything and everything to do with polarity. - clarkjohnsen 10:34:21 08/02/07 (1)
- LOL!!!!! - unclestu52 15:02:22 09/16/07 (0)
- RE: Hatfield vs. McCoy - Posy Rorer 19:21:55 07/31/07 (17)
- A few observations on your observations - clarkjohnsen 10:10:22 08/01/07 (12)
- It is good to know - unclestu52 10:41:13 08/01/07 (11)
- RE: It is good to know - Posy Rorer 11:34:27 08/01/07 (10)
- RE: It is good to know - unclestu52 13:45:05 08/01/07 (9)
- RE: It is good to know - Posy Rorer 22:25:56 08/01/07 (8)
- The reason I tell him to "read the book" is because he claims to own it -- EXCEPT... - clarkjohnsen 09:00:01 08/02/07 (6)
- ex nihilo nihil fit - unclestu52 13:48:45 08/02/07 (5)
- aut concilio aut ense - Posy Rorer 22:57:11 08/02/07 (4)
- Yes; now you see what I mean. Good try, though, and thanks, but he's irredeemable. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:23:26 08/03/07 (2)
- The Clark sidestep.... - unclestu52 12:14:37 08/03/07 (0)
- Mind you, I added that before I had read his attempt at an indictment of me below. Lordy!! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:25:41 08/03/07 (0)
- My apologies for having - unclestu52 00:48:34 08/03/07 (0)
- Well, I am glad - unclestu52 22:38:26 08/01/07 (0)
- Did you know.... - unclestu52 19:51:37 07/31/07 (3)
- RE: Did you know.... - Posy Rorer 21:44:17 07/31/07 (2)
- "isn't the order of polarity locked into the recording?" No! - clarkjohnsen 11:35:43 08/01/07 (0)
- RE: Did you know.... - unclestu52 01:11:21 08/01/07 (0)
- Re Clark's Mathematical Model & The Mars Lunar Lander - unclestu52 22:19:43 07/30/07 (3)
- RE: Re Clark's Mathematical Model & The Mars Lunar Lander - Posy Rorer 00:31:26 07/31/07 (2)
- Lest this silliness continue... - clarkjohnsen 08:08:33 07/31/07 (1)
- Let's dance - unclestu52 13:54:09 07/31/07 (0)
- Re: "a degree in physics" - tlyyra 14:34:30 07/30/07 (0)