In Reply to: Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? posted by Ted Smith on March 3, 2007 at 21:13:44:
<< If the bits are correct coming off of the disc (and they almost always are) the only errors left are timing errors which are (by definition) jitter errors. >>Come on, Ted. I'm not just some guy on the next bar stool over. I've had a little bit of hands-on experience in these matters. And I can assure you that while what you are saying makes perfect sense, it is unfortunately not the case.
Let me give just one (of dozens) of counter-examples. If you take a Wadia or other two-box machine that has a "Clock-Link" design, where the clock is in the DAC and is fed upstream to the transport, then there should be absolutely no sonic differences between transports according to your assertion. Nor would there be any audible differences from using tweaks like green pens, truing machines, mats, et cetera. But this is simply not the case.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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- Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? - Charles Hansen 08:12:00 03/04/07 (27)
- Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? - Todd Krieger 12:31:23 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? - Ted Smith 08:31:53 03/04/07 (25)
- Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? - Charles Hansen 10:16:29 03/04/07 (24)
- Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? - Ted Smith 11:53:17 03/04/07 (23)
- Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? - Charles Hansen 12:37:58 03/04/07 (22)
- Re: Jitter at what point in the chain? - Ted Smith 12:42:49 03/04/07 (21)
- We are not connecting here - Charles Hansen 15:41:44 03/04/07 (9)
- Re: We are not connecting here - Ted Smith 16:06:11 03/04/07 (8)
- Re: We are not connecting here - Charles Hansen 16:50:26 03/04/07 (6)
- Secret Jitter Path - John Swenson 17:25:20 03/05/07 (0)
- Re: We are not connecting here - Ted Smith 17:03:28 03/04/07 (4)
- Re: We are not connecting here - Charles Hansen 18:56:57 03/04/07 (3)
- Re: We are not connecting here - Ted Smith 19:43:51 03/04/07 (2)
- Re: We are not connecting here - Charles Hansen 21:15:11 03/04/07 (1)
- Re: We are not connecting here - Ted Smith 21:35:44 03/04/07 (0)
- Well spotted! - Christine Tham 16:36:13 03/04/07 (0)
- Logic induced modulation and jitter - Christine Tham 13:34:36 03/04/07 (10)
- Here are some other random jitter related pages - Ted Smith 14:17:46 03/04/07 (7)
- This is not a bad link, and not too technical - Christine Tham 14:20:32 03/04/07 (6)
- Nobody seems to take jitter seriously unless there is math in the paper :) [nt] - Ted Smith 14:31:18 03/04/07 (5)
- A question - Christine Tham 15:01:57 03/04/07 (4)
- Re: A question - Ted Smith 15:10:07 03/04/07 (3)
- Re: A question - Christine Tham 15:26:26 03/04/07 (2)
- Re: A question - Ted Smith 16:13:26 03/04/07 (1)
- Hey, nobody said it was going to be easy - which is why I'm not volunteering to design it :-) (nt) - Christine Tham 16:21:06 03/04/07 (0)
- Yep - Ted Smith 13:48:53 03/04/07 (1)
- Re: Yep - Christine Tham 14:17:23 03/04/07 (0)