In Reply to: Re: Audio academe is embodied by the AES. Have you read their Journal lately? If so... posted by May Belt on April 4, 2007 at 14:33:02:
>>It is too easy for people to dismiss others' observations that they heard improvement in the sound. If people only describe their experience as "the sound was better", then yes, it COULD easily be dismissed as imagination etc but when they give detailed descriptions of greater spread of the music, greater height, greater depth, greater width, better separation of musical instruments, then those descriptions cannot be achieved solely with IMAGINATION. Would that it could !<<It goes even further than that. Belt-ist procedures (whether PWB products or techniques) all produce a signature sound. It is quite unique to these type of products. It's not a sound that non-Beltists are familiar with, because conventional products that effect the audio signal, the electrical current or room acoustics, all produce different sonic signatures, none of which match the ones created by any Beltist procedure in my experience. So when I gave some skeptics on the net (whom I hadn't met) some free techniques to try out, and they reported back to me, they seemed surprised not just that the "silly tweaks" actually worked, but at the type of changes produced. And they described in precise detail, what sort of changes they were hearing. It wasn't just the usual "wider soundstage", "better bass" and that sort of thing you might usually find. Instead, they were describing to me the very unique nature of the changes that are brought about by Beltist procedures.
It reminded me of the idea of one those after-life experts, who's giving you an account of your sister who passed away last year. Except you're a hardened skeptic and he's -really-, really good at this. And he's describing to you everything you knew about your sister, but you know you've never met him before. You know he doesn't know anyone you know, you know you didn't fill out any information card beforehand, and didn't tell him anything about yourself. You're a card-carrying member of the JREF foundation, and you know all about cold-readers. You're trying to rationalize how he can describe every precise detail about how your sister kept her room, the peculiar things she might say to you, or the specific names of the people she would one day wish to emulate.
I recognized in their words that they had indeed heard what the techniques could produce, because I -knew- those words. They were words very much a part of the 'language of Beltism' you might say, and very much a part of the things that I experience when I institute a Beltist change in my system. That's no placebo, no delusion. It's only when you experience these audible changes yourself that you can really begin to try to understand it in something other than an intellectual sense.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Audio academe is embodied by the AES. Have you read their Journal lately? If so... - Posy Rorer 19:08:22 04/04/07 (10)
- Thus a simple religous experience and belief system. - clifff 01:13:36 04/05/07 (9)
- I agree. Audio DBTs ARE a simple religous experience and belief system. No point in debating them. (nt) - Posy Rorer 16:19:21 04/08/07 (7)
- Yeah SURE ..... "I know what I hear and couldn't be wrong" is pure objectivity !!!!!! - Richard BassNut Greene 18:14:15 04/08/07 (6)
- Richard Bassnuts: did someone forget to change your diapers? - Posy Rorer 21:54:49 04/08/07 (5)
- Your post contains only character attacks -- no audio content (nt) - Richard BassNut Greene 22:09:46 04/08/07 (4)
- Whereas your posts contain unprovoked defamatory character attacks- Sorry, you only get what you deserve, troll. - Posy Rorer 23:34:12 04/08/07 (3)
- "...the worst I have ever seen on AA." Don't get around much any more, eh? nt - clarkjohnsen 11:58:56 04/09/07 (1)
- I never did get around much on AA. So Bassnuts may not be the worst offender here, but it's not for lack of effort. (nt) - Posy Rorer 15:23:12 04/09/07 (0)
- What a poser! nt - clifff 23:44:17 04/08/07 (0)
- I could try... - Wellfed 17:58:55 04/05/07 (0)