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In Reply to: Re: just one example.... posted by Steve Eddy on September 8, 2006 at 11:15:00:
Propagation velocity is important in RF as it describes the difference between the physical and electrical lengths. For audio, a typical speaker cable is about 1 / 1000 or less than the length needed to begin to be a transmission line and so, as you point out, Velocity factor is irrelevant.Tom
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - What's Not Scientific About This? - thetubeguy1954 08:19:16 09/07/06 (174)
- Re: What's Not Scientific About This? - andy19191 06:04:50 09/09/06 (0)
- Scientific? - Don T 11:44:53 09/08/06 (21)
- Re: Scientific? - thetubeguy1954 12:35:00 09/08/06 (20)
- So what you're saying then is... - Presto 12:52:36 09/08/06 (19)
- What I Believe Is.... - thetubeguy1954 09:32:07 09/11/06 (0)
- Nordost's campaign is no different than the one Bose has used for years! - Don T 13:35:18 09/09/06 (17)
- I Can See You're Back At It. - thetubeguy1954 10:32:13 09/11/06 (14)
- Re: I Can See You're Back At It. - Don T 12:25:44 09/11/06 (13)
- Re: I Can See You're Back At It. - thetubeguy1954 14:08:28 09/11/06 (12)
- what a whack job you are - Don T 23:39:30 09/11/06 (4)
- Bye Bye Donny Boy - thetubeguy1954 08:19:03 09/12/06 (3)
- In fact you seem to me to be the audio analogy of the cable guy! - Don T 10:30:21 09/12/06 (2)
- You Are The Audio Equivalent Of Pinocchio - thetubeguy1954 11:42:28 09/12/06 (1)
- Still making those same old promises you never seem to be able to keep! - Don T 12:41:25 09/12/06 (0)
- He called you "incapable," "delluded" [sic], and a "creep". You gonna take that? nt - clarkjohnsen 14:22:45 09/11/06 (6)
- I'm sure I'm not the only one who would never bother to open a post written by you - thanks for the nt! - Don T 17:44:54 09/11/06 (5)
- Talk About Nuts???? - thetubeguy1954 08:28:20 09/12/06 (4)
- "I guess that somehow makes sense to Don T." As much as anything ever does. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:44:33 09/12/06 (3)
- Ate a bowl of beans last night - today I'm hearing the best of Clark Johnson! nt - Don T 09:58:35 09/12/06 (2)
- Clark The Farting MUST Have Cleared Out His Ears! - thetubeguy1954 11:44:41 09/12/06 (1)
- That's if he listens with his rectum. Which, who knows?... nt - clarkjohnsen 13:34:13 09/12/06 (0)
- Excellent points. - Presto 15:04:01 09/09/06 (1)
- yep! - Don T 22:31:29 09/09/06 (0)
- just one example.... - sunnysal 10:52:40 09/08/06 (2)
- Re: just one example.... - Steve Eddy 11:15:00 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: just one example.... - tomservo 11:44:25 09/08/06 (0)
- What Teflon FEP gives 1.12 dielectric constant? - cheap-Jack 09:09:50 09/08/06 (4)
- Re: What Teflon FEP gives 1.12 dielectric constant? ans - tomservo 10:54:40 09/08/06 (0)
- The bigger questions still remain: - Presto 10:34:02 09/08/06 (0)
- None. - jneutron 09:28:36 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: What Teflon FEP gives 1.12 dielectric constant? - Steve Eddy 09:25:52 09/08/06 (0)
- Your "information" source is advertising copy !!! ----- so how about a few quotes from salesmen too ? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:00:30 09/08/06 (0)
- The advertising you cited is entirely scientific...and worthless to the consumer - Soundmind 06:49:38 09/08/06 (5)
- Go Listen To Your BSR Equalizer - thetubeguy1954 06:58:43 09/08/06 (4)
- Re: Go Listen To Your BSR Equalizer-the 5 band one right? lol - n/t - Awe-d-o-file 20:03:26 09/08/06 (0)
- I like your well reasoned rebuttals tubeguy, they showcase your intelligence nt - Soundmind 07:51:49 09/08/06 (2)
- Re: I like your well reasoned rebuttals tubeguy, they showcase your intelligence nt - thetubeguy1954 07:55:49 09/08/06 (1)
- Do you think I care if you waste your money on useless trash? - Soundmind 17:13:30 09/08/06 (0)
- As you correctly say, it's claims, not facts!!! - KlausR. 04:52:49 09/08/06 (2)
- And You're Just Stating Opinions - thetubeguy1954 07:11:46 09/08/06 (1)
- The burden of proof... - KlausR. 08:56:59 09/08/06 (0)
- The dimensions data is probably correct. (nt) - Garth 23:28:08 09/07/06 (0)
- Playing Devil's Advocate.... - Todd Krieger 22:03:34 09/07/06 (5)
- Re: Playing Devil's Advocate.... - thetubeguy1954 07:40:18 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: Playing Devil's Advocate.... - mls-stl 14:57:57 09/08/06 (0)
- "Nobody has successfully conducted a blind study to truly validate the correlation." Not true! - clarkjohnsen 07:19:16 09/08/06 (2)
- Philip Greenspun takes excellent pictures. - Pat D 09:31:04 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: Philip Greenspun takes excellent pictures. - Steve Eddy 10:13:06 09/08/06 (0)
- As others have pointed out - E-Stat 21:32:21 09/07/06 (2)
- Re: As others have pointed out - thetubeguy1954 07:53:58 09/08/06 (0)
- Conclusive answers to what? - Don T 22:17:13 09/07/06 (0)
- Relative; to what? - tomservo 20:16:12 09/07/06 (8)
- I believe - unclestu52 22:42:41 09/07/06 (2)
- Re: I believe - tomservo 06:23:06 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: I believe - unclestu52 10:56:47 09/08/06 (0)
- As JNeutron pointed out, there is a typo regarding the L - E-Stat 20:56:37 09/07/06 (4)
- Re: As JNeutron pointed out, there is a typo regarding the L - tomservo 06:18:17 09/08/06 (0)
- nano...nano...nano (cried mork)...nt - jneutron 06:14:20 09/08/06 (2)
- Re: nano...nano...nano (cried mork)...nt - john curl 06:37:47 09/08/06 (0)
- Ok, ok, Orson - E-Stat 06:33:43 09/08/06 (0)
- May be this was what you were looking for - Robert Hamel 19:23:14 09/07/06 (17)
- Re: May be this was what you were looking for - Steve Eddy 19:48:13 09/07/06 (6)
- Re: Ladder line - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 06:08:55 09/08/06 (3)
- Re: Ladder line - thetubeguy1954 08:11:52 09/08/06 (2)
- Re: Ladder line - rick_m 09:17:27 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: Ladder line - Steve Eddy 09:15:35 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: May be this was what you were looking for - rick_m 21:48:04 09/07/06 (1)
- Re: May be this was what you were looking for - Steve Eddy 22:13:15 09/07/06 (0)
- Silimar info - colinhester 19:29:27 09/07/06 (9)
- Jneutron Please Read This. - thetubeguy1954 08:20:47 09/08/06 (2)
- Re: Jneutron Please Read This. - jneutron 09:21:29 09/08/06 (1)
- Thanks - colinhester 09:57:32 09/08/06 (0)
- Thanks - Robert Hamel 19:39:22 09/07/06 (5)
- You're welcome + electron velocity in Cu wire - colinhester 20:09:37 09/07/06 (4)
- Re: You're welcome + electron velocity in Cu wire - john curl 22:27:59 09/07/06 (3)
- You're right - colinhester 05:44:01 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: You're right - john curl 06:35:41 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: You're welcome + electron velocity in Cu wire - Steve Eddy 22:37:59 09/07/06 (0)
- Specifications are scientific by their very nature. But so what? - Presto 16:57:10 09/07/06 (2)
- HEY! My post got cut short. Darn it! - Presto 08:36:25 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: HEY! My post got cut short. Darn it! - john curl 17:02:09 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: note careful wording - mls-stl 14:16:52 09/07/06 (0)
- Re: What's Not Scientific About This? - Steve Eddy 09:36:25 09/07/06 (0)
- But do they sound any different? - Pat D 09:11:55 09/07/06 (87)
- Only in Pat D's World.... - thetubeguy1954 10:23:55 09/07/06 (86)
- The wonderful world of suggestive advertising - Pat D 18:58:44 09/11/06 (0)
- And in your world? - clifff 17:14:00 09/07/06 (5)
- Re: And in your world? - thetubeguy1954 08:37:43 09/08/06 (3)
- Re: And in your world? - Ken Perkins 10:02:50 09/08/06 (2)
- Re: And in your world? - thetubeguy1954 10:36:07 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: And in your world? - Ken Perkins 10:56:04 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: And in your world? - Pat D 19:41:14 09/07/06 (0)
- That would be the real world where no one hears cable differences unless one plays louder than the other - Richard BassNut Greene 14:18:55 09/07/06 (23)
- You talk like a half deaf man. - cheap-Jack 09:16:33 09/08/06 (0)
- LIAR, LIAR Tell The TRUTH RBG - thetubeguy1954 08:47:29 09/08/06 (7)
- And for further proof, that weasel whose initials are PD wholly misrepresents... - clarkjohnsen 10:42:27 09/10/06 (3)
- Did you or did you not say that Greenspun tested phono interconnects? - Pat D 15:21:55 09/10/06 (2)
- The topic was "blind studies". I supplied one. You didn't like it. So go home. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:58:43 09/11/06 (1)
- Never said the SBT wasn't blind, never said I didn't like it. - Pat D 11:46:38 09/11/06 (0)
- How come not a single cable vendor has bothered to publish a hearing test? - Caymus 20:31:03 09/08/06 (1)
- Maybe because - unclestu52 14:30:10 09/09/06 (0)
- You should investigate what Clark tells you . . . - Pat D 16:15:18 09/08/06 (0)
- How about Caymus? - robert young 16:06:44 09/07/06 (9)
- Huh? - Caymus 21:16:45 09/07/06 (8)
- Re: Huh? - unclestu52 11:09:53 09/08/06 (2)
- How come Kimber has never published a HEARING test? - Caymus 20:03:57 09/08/06 (1)
- So , how exactly, - unclestu52 13:02:10 09/09/06 (0)
- What "phony scenario," Caymus? - robert young 03:27:48 09/08/06 (4)
- Oops - you're right - Caymus 20:09:26 09/08/06 (2)
- No problem! I DID think... - robert young 20:37:31 09/08/06 (1)
- Ha ha Thanks! - Caymus 14:57:24 09/09/06 (0)
- Just his knee jerking (nt) - E-Stat 13:15:34 09/08/06 (0)
- Correction: PatD and Mr. Nut's world... - mkuller 15:10:41 09/07/06 (0)
- Re: That would be the real world where no one hears cable differences unless one plays louder than the other - kerr 14:25:28 09/07/06 (2)
- Would you know John Smith's middle initial (166 million hits for John Smith at google!) - Richard BassNut Greene 14:43:51 09/07/06 (1)
- John A Smith - kerr 18:35:16 09/07/06 (0)
- a question - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 12:12:05 09/07/06 (2)
- Re: a question - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 12:13:08 09/07/06 (1)
- Re: An Answer? - Dan Banquer 17:31:17 09/07/06 (0)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - colinhester 10:57:26 09/07/06 (28)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - thetubeguy1954 11:58:59 09/07/06 (27)
- "Until then everytime I see a post about "wacko wire" subjectivists fooling themselves " ... - Richard BassNut Greene 14:34:37 09/07/06 (0)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - Steve Eddy 12:41:12 09/07/06 (25)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - thetubeguy1954 13:39:22 09/07/06 (24)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - Phil Tower 01:21:30 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - Steve Eddy 15:07:06 09/07/06 (21)
- I like that . . . - Pat D 15:30:18 09/07/06 (20)
- You Like Anything That Supports Your Postion - thetubeguy1954 06:13:44 09/08/06 (19)
- Memory is not completely reliable . . . - Pat D 07:16:57 09/08/06 (18)
- And You Lie. - thetubeguy1954 09:00:18 09/08/06 (17)
- You mean like pretending to be familiar with my speakers when you are not? - Pat D 11:02:39 09/08/06 (16)
- YEP - thetubeguy1954 12:28:20 09/08/06 (15)
- Whats the name of the dealer? Maybe I'll stop by. - GTF 16:14:31 09/09/06 (0)
- Re: YEP - Pat D 13:25:31 09/08/06 (13)
- Re: YEP - thetubeguy1954 13:37:22 09/08/06 (12)
- Your EXACT Words Pat - thetubeguy1954 13:39:19 09/08/06 (11)
- Under the "System Strengths" category. GMAB - Pat D 14:41:23 09/08/06 (10)
- Re: Under the "System Strengths" category. GMAB - thetubeguy1954 07:00:03 09/11/06 (9)
- Re: Under the "System Strengths" category. GMAB - Pat D 10:09:34 09/11/06 (8)
- I Caught You In A Blatant Lie Pat D :^) - thetubeguy1954 11:42:36 09/11/06 (7)
- No, you just play tricks. You're not convincing anyone . . . - Pat D 14:14:54 09/11/06 (6)
- NO YOU LIED Pat. . . - thetubeguy1954 06:52:47 09/12/06 (5)
- Ahh! You auditioned the S2 with a tube amplfier with an output transformer. - Pat D 08:22:14 09/12/06 (4)
- Yes With A World-Class Reference Grade SET Amp. - thetubeguy1954 09:29:26 09/12/06 (3)
- And what is the output impedance of your amp? - Pat D 14:06:41 09/12/06 (2)
- Farewell Pat D, You've Joined Soundmind & Lying Don T - thetubeguy1954 13:07:54 09/13/06 (1)
- So what's your point? Word count 2712 saying nothing much. - Pat D 16:06:03 09/13/06 (0)
- Here's your problem as I see it - kerr 14:23:42 09/07/06 (0)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - jneutron 10:41:43 09/07/06 (22)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - thetubeguy1954 12:19:03 09/07/06 (20)
- Actually, I did not claim that my cables sound the same as Nordost Valhalla - Pat D 16:51:32 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - jneutron 12:59:09 09/07/06 (15)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - thetubeguy1954 14:24:29 09/07/06 (14)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - jneutron 06:31:42 09/08/06 (3)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - thetubeguy1954 12:02:14 09/08/06 (2)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - thetubeguy1954 13:12:42 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - jneutron 12:53:19 09/08/06 (0)
- Jeez - AJinFLA 16:22:36 09/07/06 (9)
- Re: Jeez - thetubeguy1954 06:57:07 09/08/06 (5)
- Hmmmm . . . projecting again? - Pat D 07:22:19 09/08/06 (4)
- Nope Just NEVER Kept Running Tallys --- Till Now! - thetubeguy1954 09:05:02 09/08/06 (3)
- So, you admit to an obvious argumentem ad hominem. - Pat D 09:40:07 09/08/06 (2)
- Waaaaaaa I'm Pat D Waaaaaaaaaa - thetubeguy1954 10:11:24 09/08/06 (1)
- It's sad to see a grown man's personality disintegrate in a temper tantrum! Don't look. (nt) - Pat D 16:19:09 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: Jeez - Pat D 19:30:18 09/07/06 (2)
- Get Real Pat - thetubeguy1954 09:17:42 09/08/06 (1)
- Tom's playing this game: "My stereo is much better than your stereo." - Pat D 10:12:56 09/08/06 (0)
- Re: Only in Pat D's World.... - Steve Eddy 12:53:50 09/07/06 (2)
- I'll Try To Clarify - thetubeguy1954 09:53:33 09/08/06 (1)
- Re: I'll Try To Clarify - Steve Eddy 11:03:12 09/08/06 (0)
- Admirable post - Pat D 11:04:28 09/07/06 (0)
- Well, the 9.6 microhenry per foot certainly is wrong. - jneutron 08:40:47 09/07/06 (0)
- You're really monomaniac and way too verbose... Much tiring... - Jacques 08:40:47 09/07/06 (1)
- Then Don't Read My Posts --- Simple Solution - thetubeguy1954 12:21:50 09/07/06 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: just one example.... - tomservo 11:44:25 09/08/06 (0)
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