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In Reply to: IAR Digital Format Article posted by Bob Wilcox on March 9, 2002 at 05:38:17:
While there may have been numerous valid arguments buried in the IAR article, the author of this diatribe has shot himself in the foot. If nothing else, the sheer length is enough to put off many people. As a journalist myself, I could probably have written what he said in less than one tenth of the wordcount. Moreover, the wording is so opinionated and much of the information portrayed is so second-hand. He really should have left the science of PCM and DSD to those qualified to explain it properly.Having said that, I cannot say that Sony and its marketing acolytes have been behaving impeccably – as they routinely use terminology specifically designed to confuse and obfuscate the unsuspecting public regarding the alleged merits of DSD versus PCM. But this is no excuse for people on the other side of the fence to lower the debate by overreacting to Sony’s dubious tactics.
So why are there still no objective technical papers (fully sourced and referenced) to rebuff the revealing one produced some time ago by Lipshitz/Vanderkooi? In particular, why has Sony still not successfully countered the arguments therein? How come no malicious defamation lawsuit from Sony?
While pro-DSD’ers are understandably jumping on the IAR article as an example of bullshit from the other side, I nevertheless believe that the merging of all audio (and video) formats as DVD-A/-V, is the logical, flexible, and most technically sound way to go. And as an engineering graduate myself, I am confident that the numbers for PCM do add-up. I cannot say the same for DSD. And after all, the math doesn't lie. Neither do my ears.
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Follow Ups
- Come-on DSD -- why still no technical rebuff for Lipshitz/Vanderkooi? . . . - Martin says 08:25:47 03/10/02 (42)
- Re: Come-on DSD -- why still no technical rebuff for Lipshitz/Vanderkooi? . . . - Davea 18:06:10 03/10/02 (1)
- But Sony don't release hybrid discs - Metralla 21:24:05 03/10/02 (0)
- . . . But they do control the hybrid technology & pressing . . . - Martin says 03:27:54 03/11/02 (0)
- Funny that accusation has been leveled by him...the Redbook layers of hybrid discs are about my best - Methos 10:22:58 03/11/02 (0)
- this issue has been addressed many times - tunenut 09:42:33 03/10/02 (0)
- Says a lot doesn`t it? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:30:56 03/10/02 (35)
- P. Moncrief is always very thorough and detailed - porky_pig_jr 02:11:07 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: Says a lot doesn`t it? - waVeman 11:18:09 03/10/02 (33)
- How about square wave performance -- dvda vs sacd. - theob 13:02:35 03/10/02 (18)
- 10khz "square-wave" test? Nonsense! - Martin says 16:26:29 03/10/02 (17)
- Re: 10khz "square-wave" test? Nonsense! - Peter 03:49:43 03/11/02 (0)
- All that test shows is that SACD has a higher frequency response than CD. {n.t.} - Martin says 05:16:37 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: All that test shows is that SACD has a higher frequency response than CD. {n.t.} - Peter 14:29:07 03/11/02 (0)
- Puzzled by this "test" also. - waVeman 20:53:31 03/10/02 (13)
- more whining - tunenut 21:47:41 03/10/02 (12)
- And ANOTHER typical avoidance tactic by DSD believers is rolled out! - waVeman 00:54:28 03/11/02 (11)
- you are right - tunenut 09:38:03 03/11/02 (0)
- See, it wasn't THAT hard, now was it??? N/T - waVeman 16:55:05 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: you are right . . . - Martin says 10:57:39 03/11/02 (0)
- not quite correct - tunenut 11:11:04 03/11/02 (0)
- I wasn't implying that there was a "sample & hold" with DSD . . - Martin says 11:29:53 03/11/02 (0)
- So.................. - waVeman 17:16:40 03/11/02 (3)
- the advantages are implementation issues - tunenut 18:40:41 03/11/02 (2)
- Re: the advantages are implementation issues. . . - Martin says 07:36:52 03/12/02 (1)
- . . . And for those who didn't know, "multibit" DACs use PCM {n.t.} - Martin says 07:44:18 03/12/02 (0)
- agree with you, mostly - tunenut 13:15:14 03/11/02 (0)
- Think of it this way... - Ted Smith 12:35:56 03/11/02 (0)
- I have an even better idea - Jazz Inmate 12:16:29 03/10/02 (12)
- Re: Recording heritage of Weather Report disc? - kotches 11:19:03 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: Recording heritage of Weather Report disc? - Michael Bishop 08:05:42 03/12/02 (2)
- Telarc Weather Report disc = A Winner on SACD! - bmoura 21:37:47 03/13/02 (0)
- One takeaway for me is that there is hope for dvda ... - theob 16:59:23 03/12/02 (0)
- Are there any SACD/DVD-A titles taken from the same analogue master? [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 15:15:38 03/11/02 (0)
- But a very poor conclusion . .... - ZS KEKL 19:12:56 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: I have an even better idea - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 13:05:02 03/10/02 (3)
- Re: I have an even better idea - kotches 11:32:59 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: I have an even better idea - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 15:25:02 03/11/02 (0)
- $5,000 JVC XV-D9000 dvd-audio player - waVeman 14:41:54 03/10/02 (2)
- Forget Naz vs Berrera 2, lets get it on with JVC vs Marantz SA-1! :0) [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:51:22 03/10/02 (1)
- Re: Forget Naz vs Berrera 2, lets get it on with JVC vs Marantz SA-1! :0) [nt] - waVeman 15:36:54 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: Says a lot doesn`t it? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 11:53:37 03/10/02 (0)
- Please ignore for this duplicate post -- my browser did an accidental refresh! {n.t.} - Martin says 08:28:44 03/10/02 (0)
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