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In Reply to: IAR Digital Format Article posted by Bob Wilcox on March 9, 2002 at 05:38:17:
He even admit that a A B R test like done by dCS is the only right way.A B R test means listen to compare R (original Reference, a analog tape or a live mic feed) and then A (dVD Audio) and B (SACD)
Many pros have done such tests.
So why waste our time on this A B test? To sell 617 times more magazines?
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - IAR Digital Format Article - Bob Wilcox 05:38:17 03/09/02 (93)
- Peter's violin - gkhowell 13:54:56 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: Could this article being erased from internet - Jean-Marie Geijsen 12:55:44 03/10/02 (0)
- Come-on DSD -- why still no technical rebuff for Lipshitz/Vanderkooi? . . . - Martin says 08:25:47 03/10/02 (42)
- Re: Come-on DSD -- why still no technical rebuff for Lipshitz/Vanderkooi? . . . - Davea 18:06:10 03/10/02 (1)
- But Sony don't release hybrid discs - Metralla 21:24:05 03/10/02 (0)
- . . . But they do control the hybrid technology & pressing . . . - Martin says 03:27:54 03/11/02 (0)
- Funny that accusation has been leveled by him...the Redbook layers of hybrid discs are about my best - Methos 10:22:58 03/11/02 (0)
- this issue has been addressed many times - tunenut 09:42:33 03/10/02 (0)
- Says a lot doesn`t it? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:30:56 03/10/02 (35)
- P. Moncrief is always very thorough and detailed - porky_pig_jr 02:11:07 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: Says a lot doesn`t it? - waVeman 11:18:09 03/10/02 (33)
- How about square wave performance -- dvda vs sacd. - theob 13:02:35 03/10/02 (18)
- 10khz "square-wave" test? Nonsense! - Martin says 16:26:29 03/10/02 (17)
- Re: 10khz "square-wave" test? Nonsense! - Peter 03:49:43 03/11/02 (0)
- All that test shows is that SACD has a higher frequency response than CD. {n.t.} - Martin says 05:16:37 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: All that test shows is that SACD has a higher frequency response than CD. {n.t.} - Peter 14:29:07 03/11/02 (0)
- Puzzled by this "test" also. - waVeman 20:53:31 03/10/02 (13)
- more whining - tunenut 21:47:41 03/10/02 (12)
- And ANOTHER typical avoidance tactic by DSD believers is rolled out! - waVeman 00:54:28 03/11/02 (11)
- you are right - tunenut 09:38:03 03/11/02 (0)
- See, it wasn't THAT hard, now was it??? N/T - waVeman 16:55:05 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: you are right . . . - Martin says 10:57:39 03/11/02 (0)
- not quite correct - tunenut 11:11:04 03/11/02 (0)
- I wasn't implying that there was a "sample & hold" with DSD . . - Martin says 11:29:53 03/11/02 (0)
- So.................. - waVeman 17:16:40 03/11/02 (3)
- the advantages are implementation issues - tunenut 18:40:41 03/11/02 (2)
- Re: the advantages are implementation issues. . . - Martin says 07:36:52 03/12/02 (1)
- . . . And for those who didn't know, "multibit" DACs use PCM {n.t.} - Martin says 07:44:18 03/12/02 (0)
- agree with you, mostly - tunenut 13:15:14 03/11/02 (0)
- Think of it this way... - Ted Smith 12:35:56 03/11/02 (0)
- I have an even better idea - Jazz Inmate 12:16:29 03/10/02 (12)
- Re: Recording heritage of Weather Report disc? - kotches 11:19:03 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: Recording heritage of Weather Report disc? - Michael Bishop 08:05:42 03/12/02 (2)
- Telarc Weather Report disc = A Winner on SACD! - bmoura 21:37:47 03/13/02 (0)
- One takeaway for me is that there is hope for dvda ... - theob 16:59:23 03/12/02 (0)
- Are there any SACD/DVD-A titles taken from the same analogue master? [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 15:15:38 03/11/02 (0)
- But a very poor conclusion . .... - ZS KEKL 19:12:56 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: I have an even better idea - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 13:05:02 03/10/02 (3)
- Re: I have an even better idea - kotches 11:32:59 03/11/02 (0)
- Re: I have an even better idea - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 15:25:02 03/11/02 (0)
- $5,000 JVC XV-D9000 dvd-audio player - waVeman 14:41:54 03/10/02 (2)
- Forget Naz vs Berrera 2, lets get it on with JVC vs Marantz SA-1! :0) [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:51:22 03/10/02 (1)
- Re: Forget Naz vs Berrera 2, lets get it on with JVC vs Marantz SA-1! :0) [nt] - waVeman 15:36:54 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: Says a lot doesn`t it? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 11:53:37 03/10/02 (0)
- Please ignore for this duplicate post -- my browser did an accidental refresh! {n.t.} - Martin says 08:28:44 03/10/02 (0)
- N-degree iterative testing would yield more interesting results - Nicholas Fulford 06:17:41 03/10/02 (0)
- Come-on DSD -- why still no technical rebuff for Lipshitz/Vanderkooi? . . . - Martin says 04:05:29 03/10/02 (3)
- Re: There are many tech papers at AES! - Michael Bishop 05:49:04 03/10/02 (2)
- I have done my research -- do you mean these:- - Martin says 08:34:31 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: has Ed Meitner authored any papers........? - High-end Dreamer 06:38:01 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: IAR Digital Format Article - Dan Stenning 19:45:49 03/09/02 (0)
- "the lady doth protest too much" - Joel_Waterman 13:30:27 03/09/02 (5)
- And as Joseph Pulitzer observed... - Jim Treanor 16:30:37 03/09/02 (0)
- Re: "the lady doth protest too much" - waVeman 13:43:12 03/09/02 (3)
- not sure of your point... - tunenut 15:57:24 03/09/02 (0)
- It's like separating music from white noise :-) - Joel_Waterman 14:03:17 03/09/02 (1)
- Nicely put. Thanks (nt) - Metralla 19:37:46 03/09/02 (0)
- Thats it! I am selling all my SACDs and player 'cause of IAR! <nt> - Weather_B 12:30:05 03/09/02 (0)
- Re: This one lost credibility with - Michael Bishop 12:17:29 03/09/02 (13)
- Question - waVeman 22:27:08 03/09/02 (7)
- Re: Question - Michael Bishop 16:59:21 03/10/02 (3)
- Thank you - waVeman 01:10:04 03/11/02 (0)
- Nobody 'hates' PCM...scsid MCP ylohnu sih raeh ot lleh ni mih nioj lliw I ro natas morf em evas!!! - Methos 20:36:01 03/11/02 (0)
- Thks Michael! - TheNewOrder 19:20:32 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: Dear Watson... - Patrick UITZ 03:13:30 03/10/02 (1)
- Positive wa V e. nt - Patrick UITZ 08:08:02 03/11/02 (0)
- I really hope so Pat. N/T - waVeman 15:42:22 03/10/02 (0)
- Not new subject. - SimonTJU 16:27:41 03/09/02 (2)
- Second that - Joel_Waterman 00:43:22 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: Second that, me to - Peter 03:57:11 03/11/02 (0)
- Simon that has been my experience too. Just the opposite of Moncrief's ridiculous assertions. nt - theob 16:54:16 03/09/02 (0)
- Thanks to an insider who can repudiate the rubbish that Moncrief is alleging. nt - theob 13:42:17 03/09/02 (0)
- Re: IAR Digital Format Article - mr_bill 10:35:35 03/09/02 (4)
- Re: YES - Michael Bishop 12:21:35 03/09/02 (0)
- Re: IAR Digital Format Article - theob 12:02:20 03/09/02 (2)
- J Peter Moncrief.- was he ever "mighty" ? - Metralla 19:46:21 03/09/02 (1)
- Re: J Peter Moncrief.- was he ever "mighty" ? - theob 04:54:16 03/10/02 (0)
- fundatmental errors - tunenut 10:26:02 03/09/02 (0)
- 6 bits of resolution...?! And lower-end audiophiles fooled into this? - DVDAphile 09:28:29 03/09/02 (0)
- This nonsense happens when you do not have a bypass test - Ole Lund Christensen 08:32:40 03/09/02 (0)
- Well there you have it. DSD is the worst thing that has been ... - theob 07:37:02 03/09/02 (0)
- Here's a few typical quotes: - Ted Smith 07:36:15 03/09/02 (1)
- Re: Here's a few typical quotes: - Skeptic 08:35:45 03/09/02 (0)
- An overkill of an article! beside the fact that the writer has some kind of paranoia... - patrickU 05:59:57 03/09/02 (8)
- Re: An overkill of an article! beside the fact that the writer has some kind of paranoia... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:07:12 03/10/02 (3)
- Re: An overkill of an article! beside the fact that the writer has some kind of paranoia... - Patrick UITZ 10:49:32 03/10/02 (2)
- Re: An overkill of an article! beside the fact that the writer has some kind of paranoia... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 12:05:09 03/10/02 (1)
- Re: An overkill of an article! beside the fact that the writer has some kind of paranoia... - Patrick UITZ 12:12:24 03/10/02 (0)
- J. Peter Cottonears strikes again <nt> - Nicholas Fulford 07:59:13 03/10/02 (3)
- HP called him that too! <nt> - theob 08:11:50 03/10/02 (2)
- So did TELARC , too... - Patrick UITZ 10:51:44 03/10/02 (1)
- Re: So did TELARC , too... - theob 13:05:39 03/10/02 (0)
- Re: So did TELARC , too... - Patrick UITZ 05:06:29 03/11/02 (0)
Follow Ups
- This nonsense happens when you do not have a bypass test - Ole Lund Christensen 08:32:40 03/09/02 (0)
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