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In Reply to: Try Answering The Question. posted by thetubeguy1954 on August 9, 2006 at 13:38:28:
tg1954: ""
John now you are being arrogant.""No. I am stating facts.
You finally stated ""True in a 100% technical sense as it applies to magnetism I used permeability & permittivity, incorrectly.""
That was my point dude. You used it inaccurately.
But did you say "well, ok, you were correct, I was wrong??? NO. You said, and I quote:
""I guess I gave you too much credit for having enough intelligence to realise""
and
""I though to myself (obviously incorrectly) jneutron seems an intelligent fellow""You want to act like an idiot, you will be treated like one.
You want to act civil, you will be treated civilly.
Simple.
tg: ""
I have do desire to read at length technical articles I barely understand.""The links I provided are not long technical articles. They are barely sufficient to have a dialogue on.
tg1954: ""
I understand very basic electro-magnetics. But just to appease you we'll go to http://www.williamson-labs.com/480_rlc-l.htm Wherein instates: "...if an electrical Current is passed through a Conductor, a Magnetic Field (Flux Lines) forms around the Conductor." Check for yourself "if" you don't believe me.""I checked it. It is a hugely rudimentary site, with very "dumbed down" explanations on e/m theory. (I really do not like the term "dumbed down", but lack a sufficient alternative...it is not meant as an insult).
But you must realize that your copied sentence, ""if an electrical Current is passed through a Conductor, a Magnetic Field (Flux Lines) forms around the Conductor"" is a simplified explanation of amperes law. Very simplified. And note that the word permittivity is not in that sentence.
tg: ""
This is a simple question John that requires a simple answer. It is either:1) NO the dielectric doesn't oppose the expansion and collapsing of the magnetic field when an electrical current is passed through a conductor. or it's
2) YES the dielectric does oppose the expansion and collapsing of the magnetic field when an electrical current is passed through a conductor. Or are you afraid if we address this slowly point-by-point you'll be proven incorrect? ""
Proven incorrect? I think you need to re-evaluate. Any slower, and you will be going backwards.
The dielectric (permittivity) is charged by the change in voltage potential of the conductors. As the voltage changes, the capacitance fights the change in voltage.
The permeability of space is responsible for the inductance of the wire, it is what causes the lag of current as the current tries to increase.
The permeability does not fight the voltage, and the permittivity does not fight the current.
Is that too difficult to understand?
tg: ""
I'm being civil and I am asking you civil questions in an attempt to debate you on a level I can understand. If you are postive you are correct and I am wrong, I don't see why you won't do the same.""Calling someone arrogant is considered civil by you?
Saying that "I gave you too much credit for having enough intelligence " is civil??
Saying ""I though to myself (obviously incorrectly) jneutron seems an intelligent fellow"" is civil?
Wake up. Try harder to be civil, so far you've failed miserably.
Cheers, John
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