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jneutron at this point I'm not sure if you are trying to impress me with your technical knowledge as so often occurs on here on Propeller Head Plaza or if you just don't understand the point I was trying to make.

First allow me to inform you I am NOT technically orientated. I do however try to investigate things that interest me to the best of my ability.

I'd also like you to know that originally I believed most if not all wires sounded alike. Or if they did sound different the differences were so small as to be inaudible. That was 15-20 years ago. Thank GOD a patient audiophile proved to me the error of my ways.

I wish to only address one point you made, i.e. "Holy mackeral..permeability CANNOT be viewed as permittivity."

As I'm sure you are well aware permeability, permeable and semipermeable have several meanings. When you were making your
point it's obvious you were refering to permeability as it applied ONLY to electromagnetism. Thus it meant the degree of magnetisation of a material in response to a magnetic field.

I however I guess I gave you too much credit for having enough intelligence to realise that I was using another of permeability's definitions. In light of the fact that I stated specifically in my original post: "Please understand for this example I'm just MAKING UP and using easy numbers to work with so the principle I'm trying to describe will be SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND" then when I responded to you I added 1) "I was purposely making it simple so it would be easy for EVERYONE to understand" and 2) "Also in KEEPING IT EASY the permeability of the media, could easily be viewed as it's permittivity.

I though to myself (obviously incorrectly) jneutron seems an intelligent fellow. He'll understand by my last statement, i.e."Also in KEEPING IT EASY the permeability of the media, could easily be viewed as it's permittivity." He'll understand I'm using permeability as most non-technical people have heard it and probably us it. That is, as its used in fluids, as a measure of the ability of a material to allow (or permit) fluids to pass. I suppose I could and perhaps should have given you an analogy to clarify my point. So allow me to do so now. Just as an extremely permeable rock would easily allow water to pass through it, I was suggesting that the more permeable the dielectric is, the easier the magentic field around it expands and collapses.

But instead of trying to understand that principle. Instead of considering that perhaps for the less technically proficient I was using the term permeability in a way those unfamliar with the technicalities of magetics would understand it and have heard it used most. Instead of considering I was using another meaning of permeability i.e as its used in fluids, as a measure of the ability of a material to transmit (or permit) fluids to pass. You chose instead to mock my ideas by stating: You provide a long, rambling, technical description of how magnetic fields are "subject to" the dielectric constant of the insulation, which is ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY, 100 PERCENT WRONG. Which part of WRONG. do you not understand???"

jneutron you are acting like many of the technically proficient here do. You bully those less technically adept and instaed of even trying to understand what they're saying you attack their misuse of words. True in a 100% technical sense as it applies to magnetism I used permeability & permittivity, incorrectly. However when viewed in light of the analogy I was trying to make I didn't use them incorrectly at all. You unfortunately had your mind so firmly stuck between the cheeks of magnetics and ALL of Maxwells equations you couldn't even percieve the analogy I was implying.

Remember next time before you attack, not everyone here is as technically proficient as you are. Consider that perhaps the word could has ANOTHER MEANING that's more widely used and understood by those less technically proficient. Had you done that in my case and tried to see the analogy I was trying to make you would have understood my points.

Thetubeguy1954

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