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In Reply to: Re: Welti comments posted by twelti on March 11, 2007 at 15:48:53:
"I didn’t realize my paper(s) had caused such a commotion! "RG
Nah, just me and the Duke causing a commotion ... and somehow your paper got thrown into the commotion ... I mean "debate".
Many two channel audio owners read your paper and decide what they need is to be surrounded by four subwoofers for the best possible bass frequency response, and the best possible subwoofer-main speaker integration, at their ONE sweet spot seat. I have no idea why so many readers extrapolate your home theater conclusions to their two-channel audio systems, but it must have something to do with your writing.
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"I don’t know how it could have been stated any clearer"
RG
I've been writing a financial newsletter ECONOMIC LOGIC as a hobby since 1977 and there have been a number of times subscribers have misinterpreted what I thought was very clear writing. I always take the blame -- could have said it a different way..
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"If you are only concerned about the “stereophile sweetspotâ€, you shouldn’t have much to worry about. Get a good parametric eq."
RG
Agree. I've been equalizing my DIY subwoofers since the early 1980's and pontificating about the subject online since 1996. A lot of two-channel audiophiles are anti-equalizer, unfortunately.“No concern about bass quality (or even measurements) in the ONE sweet spot for two-channel audioâ€
Stated clearly in the paper.
RG
You say it is stated clearly.
It seemed clear to me when I read your paper many years ago.
But Duke and others just don't get it.
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“No concern about subwoofer-front speaker integration.â€
Lots of concern, but for the multiple seat situation where that is really a PROBLEM.
RG
Integration is much more difficult with two-channel audio as side and rear subwoofers are usually heard/felt as separate sound sources.
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.“It may be possible, after months or even years of trial and error, to find positions for multiple subwoofers that are optimal for ONE seating position in ONE room ... but ONLY if you ignore the quality of subwoofer/main speaker integration (the quality of the front soundstage), which is the most important attribute when using a subwoofer(s) in a two-channel audio system, IMHO.â€
Please read ““In-Room Low Frequency Optimizationâ€, Sept. 2003, AES preprint 5942.†It is possible. There are consumer devices coming out soon.
RG
Front speaker - subwoofer integration is subjective and depends on so many factors that I couldn't list them all here. No matter what consumer devices are available, they will face the wraith of the high-end audiophile ("It doesn't sound right to me") and his wife ("You can't put your subwoofer THERE!")
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Richard BassNut Greene
Subjective Audiophile 2007
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- Duke caused the commotion by quoting your paper at a primarily two-channel audio website - Richard BassNut Greene 14:33:25 03/13/07 (0)
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