In Reply to: Adding a third or fourth subwoofer may improve bass at your seat in your room ... or maybe make it worse! posted by Richard BassNut Greene on March 9, 2007 at 08:26:52:
The only time adding an additional subwoofer would not result in smoothing is if its pattern of in-room peaks and dips exactly overlapped the pattern of the original sub(s). And the only way that would happen is if it was placed in exactly the same location occupied by another sub, which is physically unlikely if not impossible. Remember that when you add another subwoofer, you turn down the volume of the previous one(s) so that the average bass SPL stays the same. Spatial and to a certain extent frequency response smoothing goes up as the number of bass sources in the room goes up, according to Geddes, as I have previously cited.There are plenty of 1/4 and 1/2 wavelength peaks and nulls below 100 Hz, but they are the result of reflections off of walls far away from the subwoofer, not the wall close to it. I said that before. This is one reason why each subwoofer's in-room pattern of peaks and dips will be unique.
You also already brought up the floor-to-ceiling mode issue, and I acknowledged that vertical scattering would be beneficial, and pointed out that mulitple subs on the floor would be no worse than the one or two subs on the floor you advocate - and at least my way gives you the option to scatter vertically. And if vertical scattering is benefical, then likewise scattering in the horizontal plane would be beneficial - which my technqiue calls for and yours does not.
Duke
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Follow Ups
- Adding additional subs almost always results in smoothing. - Duke 09:29:21 03/09/07 (11)
- $10,000 says my one subwoofer + parametric EQ will be smoother than your three or four subwoofers in 9 out of 10 rooms - Richard BassNut Greene 13:40:32 03/09/07 (10)
- Depends on parameters of the contest - Duke 14:13:09 03/09/07 (9)
- Three or four "scattered subwoofers" all located on the floor = sonic disaster - Richard BassNut Greene 09:23:41 03/10/07 (8)
- not true - Duke 13:58:37 03/10/07 (7)
- Re: some comments - twelti 15:54:39 03/11/07 (6)
- Your paper applies to surround sound but many readers assume 4 subs are best for two-channel - Richard BassNut Greene 08:31:20 03/12/07 (2)
- Re: Your paper applies to surround sound but many readers assume 4 subs are best for two-channel - twelti 21:45:37 03/12/07 (1)
- My mind is open on a third or fourth subwoofer for two channel audio. You seem to have only conclusions. - Richard BassNut Greene 08:53:53 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: some comments - Duke 16:22:24 03/11/07 (2)
- Re: some comments - twelti 19:12:15 03/11/07 (1)
- "Heated exchange"??? - Richard BassNut Greene 09:12:33 03/12/07 (0)