In Reply to: Your arguments don't support your conclusion. posted by Pat D on June 19, 2008 at 14:40:37:
"DBT methodology can work down to the physical limits of hearing." No, I do not think this is true. Nothing you have stated provides any support for thids conclusion.
"jj has pointed out that forced choice seems to increase the sensitivity of the audition." There you go bringing jj up again. I really don't care one iota what jj says or thinks.
"Audiologists are able to determine whether hearing is normal or not as part of their day to day work." What does this have to do with the topic at hand?? Try to stay focussed.
"There's nothing peculiar to DBT to induce performance anxiety. If forced choice bothers you, perhaps you need training." First, whether or not it is "peculiar" is irrelevant if the problem exists. Second, you might need to look up "forced choice." There are significant implications of forced choice on test results. And no, I don't need "training," Pat. You can do better than this.
"If testing something else, perhaps, but it is precisely the ear-brain combination that is being tested. Just as the audiologists can test hearing, so can psychometricians test how sensitive hearing is." You must be joking. Your statement tosses the DBT right out the window as anything other than a momentary time-specific gimmick for testing one person's abilities at a very specific time for a very specific set of parameters. There is nothing that can be derived from the data that translates into any back-up for support of general conclusions.
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Follow Ups
- Sorry, but I do not accept your points. - robert young 15:08:02 06/19/08 (10)
- Just for your benefit... - bjh 17:42:49 06/19/08 (9)
- But do you benefit? - Pat D 18:02:29 06/19/08 (8)
- When I suggested that you research "forced choice," I didn't intend... - robert young 19:24:59 06/19/08 (6)
- I gave you the thread--you can search around it all you want. - Pat D 16:04:20 06/20/08 (1)
- I'm sad that you clearly can't give this more attention. - robert young 16:37:03 06/20/08 (0)
- JJ was just the sort to earn Pat D's adulation... - bjh 20:23:28 06/19/08 (3)
- I was around when he took his ball and left. - robert young 03:32:27 06/20/08 (2)
- I expect he had other things to do . . . - Pat D 05:57:06 06/21/08 (1)
- Though the point is irrelevant, you are right about it. - robert young 06:27:04 06/21/08 (0)
- RE: But do you benefit? - bjh 18:32:29 06/19/08 (0)