In Reply to: Re: Walt Jung's website posted by Tom Dawson on June 9, 2004 at 15:47:09:
Your answer follows. Read carefully and be sure to retain this information for any future discussion.Offset the signal by up to several percent of the input magnitude in a manner nonharmonically related to a nonsinusoidal or particularly non repetitive input waveform (eg: music), in the case of some types of ceramic capacitor.
This is particularly pernicious when used as a coupling cap, since the spectrum of this distortion is transposed to higher frequencies where the ear is usually more sensitive, most notably affecting both the attack and decay to ambient characterics of more dynamic musical transients. Presumably, you don't need a clinic on deciphering what those might be.
Ask yourself: would a high DA capacitor generally be more suitable for coupling high quality analog than when used for a s/h function for instrumentation purposes or digital audio? If so, why?
I think you're in the wrong forum. This forum is for techincal discussions.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Article "if the capacitor fits" - jneutron 07:14:09 05/28/04 (161)
- A Link to the Audio Mag Article. - Robert Hamel 07:32:11 06/07/04 (29)
- Re: A Link to the Audio Mag Article. - jneutron 08:12:49 06/07/04 (28)
- Do you now deny you posted a sentence which tied together "model"..."fig B1"..."possibility of skin effect" ... - Tom Dawson 13:45:17 06/11/04 (6)
- Re: Do you now deny you posted a sentence which tied together "model"..."fig B1"..."possibility of skin effect" ... - jneutron 14:01:43 06/11/04 (5)
- Re: Do you now deny you posted a sentence which tied together "model"..."fig B1"..."possibility of skin effect" ... - Tom Dawson 14:13:16 06/11/04 (4)
- Hmmm..I see why we did not see eye to eye.. - jneutron 06:50:36 06/14/04 (0)
- Do whatever you want! Personaly I have more faith in jneutron than that. nt! - Granholm 12:50:15 06/12/04 (2)
- Re: Do whatever you want! Personaly I have more faith in jneutron than that. nt! - john curl 15:07:34 06/12/04 (1)
- Hi John - jneutron 05:54:23 06/14/04 (0)
- Re: A Link to the Audio Mag Article. - Tom Dawson 14:17:15 06/09/04 (20)
- Re: A Link to the Audio Mag Article. - john curl 10:37:29 06/10/04 (1)
- Hi John - jneutron 10:46:00 06/10/04 (0)
- Re: A Link to the Audio Mag Article. - jneutron 09:27:15 06/10/04 (16)
- "You bring an obvious attitude along with your erroneous statements." - self referential comment of the week by jneutron - Tom Dawson 13:35:55 06/11/04 (15)
- Perhaps you should slow down and read the post again.. - jneutron 13:49:44 06/11/04 (14)
- How could it be 'false' to point out your glaring errors, jneutron? nt - Tom Dawson 14:00:04 06/11/04 (3)
- Re: How could it be 'false' to point out your glaring errors, jneutron? nt - jneutron 14:05:16 06/11/04 (2)
- "you've only posted (jneutron's) errors on your own.." positing significant skin effect of a 2uF cap @ 20hz is an error - Tom Dawson 09:46:34 07/01/04 (1)
- ummm, Tom? what are you talking about. - jneutron 12:30:44 07/02/04 (0)
- Perhaps you should admit that you intended to suggest that skin effect should be considered... - Tom Dawson 13:56:17 06/11/04 (9)
- Re: Perhaps you should admit that you intended to suggest that skin effect should be considered... - john curl 14:12:27 06/11/04 (1)
- Hi John - jneutron 07:02:08 06/14/04 (0)
- Re: Perhaps you should admit that you intended to suggest that skin effect should be considered... - jneutron 14:04:19 06/11/04 (6)
- "nobody has a clue as to where it (skin effect) would present as an effect" - Speak for yourself, jneutron nt - Tom Dawson 09:49:52 07/01/04 (1)
- Boy..you are working overtime, aren't you.. - jneutron 12:43:25 07/02/04 (0)
- Re: Perhaps you should admit that you intended to suggest that skin effect should be considered... - john curl 14:21:05 06/11/04 (3)
- Re: Perhaps you should admit that you intended to suggest that skin effect should be considered... - jneutron 06:56:27 06/14/04 (2)
- Re: Perhaps you should admit that you intended to suggest that skin effect should be considered... - john curl 09:35:19 06/14/04 (1)
- Re: Perhaps you should admit that you intended to suggest that skin effect should be considered... - jneutron 10:27:02 06/14/04 (0)
- Re: A Link to the Audio Mag Article. - john curl 18:43:14 06/09/04 (0)
- Here's a website with info... - Sean 23:12:47 06/05/04 (10)
- OH, forgot to add this.. - jneutron 07:07:06 06/07/04 (0)
- Re: Here's a website with info... - jneutron 05:58:03 06/07/04 (0)
- Re: Here's a website with info... - Jon Risch 18:33:56 06/06/04 (7)
- Re: Here's a website with info... - jneutron 06:14:36 06/07/04 (6)
- Haven't seen any big boys here.... - Commuteman 10:39:21 06/07/04 (5)
- Damn...ya had to call my bluff, didn't ya??nt - jneutron 10:59:26 06/07/04 (4)
- Of course ;-) nt - Commuteman 12:15:24 06/07/04 (3)
- Curse you red baron.. - jneutron 12:38:20 06/07/04 (2)
- But seriously... (and late) - Commuteman 09:07:41 06/15/04 (1)
- Late?...LATE???? - jneutron 13:58:38 06/15/04 (0)
- Q3 - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 06:43:08 06/01/04 (1)
- Re: Q3 - jneutron 07:50:10 06/01/04 (0)
- Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 09:35:26 05/29/04 (51)
- Re: Hmmmm... - john curl 10:44:44 05/29/04 (50)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 13:00:29 05/29/04 (49)
- Re: Hmmmm... - john curl 13:12:14 05/29/04 (48)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 19:11:55 05/29/04 (47)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Sean 23:54:21 06/05/04 (46)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 13:17:17 06/07/04 (27)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Sean 21:23:44 06/07/04 (26)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 23:05:53 06/07/04 (1)
- Steve - jneutron 09:34:38 06/08/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - john curl 22:22:04 06/07/04 (23)
- I notice you haven't answered the questions.. - jneutron 09:18:27 06/08/04 (2)
- Re: I notice you haven't answered the questions.. - john curl 01:04:51 06/09/04 (1)
- Re: I notice you haven't answered the questions.. - jneutron 09:49:19 06/10/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 23:13:48 06/07/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Sean 22:27:13 06/07/04 (18)
- Walt Jung's website - Sean 22:31:28 06/07/04 (17)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - john curl 00:33:51 06/08/04 (16)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Sean 20:54:52 06/08/04 (2)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - john curl 08:31:17 06/09/04 (1)
- I'm surprised that we haven't seen... - Sean 21:28:38 06/09/04 (0)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Steve Eddy 00:52:42 06/08/04 (12)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Tom Dawson 13:26:11 06/09/04 (11)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Steve Eddy 15:23:38 06/09/04 (10)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Tom Dawson 15:47:09 06/09/04 (9)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - jneutron 10:30:40 06/10/04 (6)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Tom Dawson 13:53:31 06/11/04 (5)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - jneutron 09:13:03 06/14/04 (0)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Steve Eddy 15:50:35 06/11/04 (3)
- Stop confusing my world with facts!! ;o) nt! - Granholm 12:56:49 06/12/04 (2)
- Thanks for the reminder! - Steve Eddy 19:28:03 06/12/04 (1)
- Looking forward to receive it ;o) nt! - Granholm 13:22:58 06/13/04 (0)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Steve Eddy 17:38:17 06/09/04 (1)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Tom Dawson 13:46:27 07/01/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Phil Tower 09:09:58 06/06/04 (17)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Tom Dawson 14:36:12 06/09/04 (1)
- Re: Hmmmm... - jneutron 12:03:40 06/10/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Sean 11:04:14 06/06/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - john curl 10:09:52 06/06/04 (13)
- Re: Hmmmm... - john curl 14:26:12 06/06/04 (12)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 13:42:24 06/07/04 (11)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Tom Dawson 13:44:42 06/09/04 (10)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 15:34:11 06/09/04 (9)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Tom Dawson 15:55:56 06/09/04 (8)
- Re: Hmmmm... - john curl 10:44:03 06/10/04 (1)
- Re: Hmmmm... - jneutron 10:50:32 06/10/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - jneutron 09:58:03 06/10/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - john curl 18:39:25 06/09/04 (0)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Steve Eddy 17:36:05 06/09/04 (3)
- Re: Hmmmm... - Tom Dawson 09:36:43 07/01/04 (1)
- Re: Hmmmm... - jneutron 13:45:09 07/02/04 (0)
- steve, he did get ya...you should have been more specific, - jneutron 09:43:27 06/10/04 (0)
- Re: Article "if the capacitor fits" - john curl 23:51:18 05/28/04 (5)
- Well, you answered two anyway...and part of a third.. - jneutron 07:40:51 06/01/04 (4)
- Re: Well, you answered two anyway...and part of a third.. - john curl 08:53:42 06/01/04 (3)
- I note with interest, you still didn't answer the questions.. - jneutron 13:35:18 06/01/04 (2)
- Re: I note with interest, you still didn't answer the questions.. - john curl 20:01:05 06/01/04 (1)
- Well, a little more tempered response, at least.. - jneutron 06:27:55 06/02/04 (0)
- Re: Article "if the capacitor fits" - john curl 10:05:28 05/28/04 (59)
- BTW..those are just the simple "check of methods" questions. - jneutron 10:27:41 05/28/04 (6)
- Re: BTW..those are just the simple "check of methods" questions. - john curl 13:04:09 05/29/04 (1)
- I did read the article carefully. - jneutron 06:25:25 06/01/04 (0)
- Re: BTW..those are just the simple "check of methods" questions. - john curl 11:59:30 05/28/04 (3)
- Re: BTW..those are just the simple "check of methods" questions. - jneutron 12:51:01 05/28/04 (2)
- Re: BTW..those are just the simple "check of methods" questions. - john curl 13:32:33 05/28/04 (1)
- Re: BTW..those are just the simple "check of methods" questions. - jneutron 13:50:03 05/28/04 (0)
- As I suspected..Walt did all the work, didn't he..you're just along for the ride.. - jneutron 10:17:15 05/28/04 (51)
- That's real professional John - Jon Risch 22:36:08 05/28/04 (38)
- Re: That's real professional John - Phil Tower 11:19:31 06/01/04 (1)
- Re: That's real professional John - john curl 20:18:21 06/01/04 (0)
- Figured you'd provide a BS response..I guessed right.. - jneutron 06:09:31 06/01/04 (35)
- You and the other Naysayers are the Problem - Jon Risch 20:44:59 06/01/04 (30)
- oh, btw..you are the only impediment to actual progress. - jneutron 10:42:53 06/02/04 (6)
- Re: oh, btw..you are the only impediment to actual progress. - john curl 13:54:39 06/02/04 (5)
- Re: oh, btw..you are the only impediment to actual progress. - Steve Eddy 14:16:36 06/02/04 (3)
- Steve you are wrong! - Granholm 22:56:50 06/10/04 (2)
- Re: Steve you are wrong! - john curl 23:17:39 06/10/04 (1)
- hmmm - jneutron 06:10:18 06/11/04 (0)
- Re: oh, btw..you are the only impediment to actual progress. - jneutron 13:59:21 06/02/04 (0)
- Re: You and the other Naysayers are the Problem - Phil Tower 07:49:39 06/02/04 (0)
- Did you just categorize yourself as a competent engineer???? - jneutron 06:12:38 06/02/04 (13)
- Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - jensw 14:43:47 06/02/04 (10)
- Re: Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - Phil Tower 08:30:13 06/03/04 (9)
- Re: Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - john curl 08:02:45 06/04/04 (8)
- Re: Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - Phil Tower 10:26:30 06/04/04 (7)
- Re: Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - john curl 10:40:16 06/04/04 (5)
- Re: Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - Phil Tower 11:19:12 06/04/04 (4)
- Re: Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - john curl 12:09:42 06/04/04 (3)
- Classic John Curl - Phil Tower 16:31:11 06/04/04 (2)
- Re: Classic John Curl - john curl 17:54:10 06/04/04 (1)
- Re: Classic John Curl - Phil Tower 18:24:10 06/04/04 (0)
- Re: Do not touch : "HIGH END AUDIO" - john curl 10:36:41 06/04/04 (0)
- Re: Did you just categorize yourself as a competent engineer???? - john curl 08:18:56 06/02/04 (1)
- Re: Did you just categorize yourself as a competent engineer???? - jneutron 08:29:25 06/02/04 (0)
- Re: You and the other Naysayers are the Problem - Steve Eddy 22:37:45 06/01/04 (7)
- Re: You and the other Naysayers are the Problem - Jon Risch 17:17:01 06/02/04 (5)
- Re: You and the other Naysayers are the Problem - Steve Eddy 18:22:13 06/02/04 (4)
- Re: Now thats F--------ing funny:))) - 3fd 12:47:29 06/06/04 (0)
- Typical childish behavior (nt) - Jon Risch 18:13:02 06/03/04 (0)
- LOL nt. - Robert Hamel 15:30:08 06/03/04 (0)
- Eine kleine frickmusik - E-Stat 05:20:45 06/03/04 (0)
- Re: You and the other Naysayers are the Problem - john curl 01:49:37 06/02/04 (0)
- Re: Figured you'd provide a BS response..I guessed right.. - john curl 09:32:44 06/01/04 (3)
- Re: Figured you'd provide a BS response..I guessed right.. - jneutron 13:47:05 06/01/04 (2)
- Re: Figured you'd provide a BS response..I guessed right.. - john curl 20:19:35 06/01/04 (1)
- Hmmmm. - jneutron 07:20:11 06/02/04 (0)
- Re: As I suspected..Walt did all the work, didn't he..you're just along for the ride.. - john curl 14:12:35 05/28/04 (3)
- Re: As I suspected..Walt did all the work, didn't he..you're just along for the ride.. - Granholm 14:03:25 05/29/04 (2)
- Re: As I suspected..Walt did all the work, didn't he..you're just along for the ride.. - john curl 09:29:43 05/30/04 (1)
- decided to respond to your contentions here.. - jneutron 07:35:19 06/04/04 (0)
- Yup... - Steve Eddy 10:32:08 05/28/04 (7)
- unfortunately, cobbling circuits only goes so far. - jneutron 11:20:50 05/28/04 (6)
- Re: unfortunately, cobbling circuits only goes so far. - Steve Eddy 12:12:49 05/28/04 (2)
- Yah, I think you're right, Steve. - jneutron 12:56:26 05/28/04 (1)
- This is like watching "Bumfights" (eom) - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 14:05:57 05/28/04 (0)
- Re: unfortunately, cobbling circuits only goes so far. - Dan Banquer 11:31:31 05/28/04 (2)
- Re: unfortunately, cobbling circuits only goes so far. - Steve Eddy 12:10:00 05/28/04 (1)
- Re: unfortunately, cobbling circuits only goes so far. - Dan Banquer 12:27:31 05/28/04 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Steve Eddy 17:38:17 06/09/04 (1)
- Re: Walt Jung's website - Tom Dawson 13:46:27 07/01/04 (0)