In Reply to: I am sorry it drives you up the war, but what I said is fundamental to the scientific method. posted by Norm on October 4, 2007 at 16:55:38:
Audio DBTs test whether there is an audible difference between two sources, to some listeners, in some system, at some time. That's it - yes or no. A positive result means there was probably an audible difference to those listeners with that system, a negative result, probably not. Exactly what do you think is invalid about that?
If from such a negative result you infer something like that all cables are the same, yeah, that's invalid - but again, no one does that. Instead they use it as a valuable but limited piece of evidence in their overall understanding.
Sighted test results are the same - no general applicability - but one has to remember that the results in that case might be affected by expectation bias. Since we know expectation bias is quite powerful, such tests don't add much to our knowledge of what's audible. That's why DBTs are useful.
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Follow Ups
- And why do you think DBTs are "invalid"? - truthseekerprime 17:48:59 10/04/07 (12)
- RE: And why do you think DBTs are "invalid"? Yep - Norm 20:00:50 10/04/07 (11)
- "Since the hypothesis is that there are no differences" - how many times do I have to say that no one thinks that! - truthseekerprime 20:33:24 10/04/07 (10)
- So what is the hypothesis? What are you testing? nt - Norm 06:17:52 10/05/07 (9)
- Whether some difference is audible in some particular situation to some set of listeners. /nt - truthseekerprime 08:15:57 10/05/07 (8)
- This is no hypothesis. Audible to which listeners and under what situation. - Norm 11:22:03 10/05/07 (7)
- It's really not very complicated - truthseekerprime 14:59:47 10/05/07 (6)
- It is really easy but you have to know something about the scientific method and logic. - Norm 20:04:28 10/05/07 (5)
- RE: It is really easy but you have to know something about the scientific method and logic. - morricab 04:07:51 10/09/07 (0)
- Ummm... what? - truthseekerprime 06:03:30 10/06/07 (3)
- You concern me as a scientist in not seeing the distinction between null and real. - Norm 07:27:30 10/06/07 (2)
- My current hypothesis is that you have no idea what you're talking about, no evidence so far to reject. nt/ - truthseekerprime 08:01:52 10/06/07 (1)
- I am of the same opinion relative to you. As I said, there is no purpose in further discussion. nt - Norm 09:03:08 10/06/07 (0)