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In Reply to: DBT, Part 1 posted by Jon Risch on April 6, 2003 at 22:42:15:
Has anybody else read this? It happened long before I was into audio but is a prime example of some of the things we have been discussing. It was a pretty controversial debate back in the 80s.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - cheap-Jack 12:47:26 03/31/03 (89)
- Parts 2 and 3 are posted up top - Jon Risch 20:23:05 04/20/03 (0)
- Sighted auditions aren't valid for a very simple reason. - R. Hertz 21:37:04 04/11/03 (0)
- thanks jon, clearly presented (nt) - sunnysal 12:28:44 04/09/03 (0)
- DBT, Part 1 - Jon Risch 22:42:15 04/06/03 (13)
- I considered replying to this point by point... BUT - jj 18:28:36 04/08/03 (0)
- Re: I read every word. - tianguis 17:51:55 04/08/03 (0)
- example - D.B.. 09:23:01 04/08/03 (1)
- Ah, yes, the SP-9. I can explain everything! - clarkjohnsen 08:45:32 04/09/03 (0)
- You've laid good groundwork. nt - clarkjohnsen 13:44:29 04/07/03 (0)
- Sighted Auditions, Part 1 - BassNut 11:10:54 04/07/03 (7)
- Re: Sighted Auditions, Part 1 - E-Stat 13:43:45 04/09/03 (0)
- Re: Sighted Auditions, Part 1 - cheap-Jack 13:16:33 04/08/03 (4)
- single-blind auditions of borrowed components at home - BassNut 14:48:09 04/09/03 (2)
- Re: single-blind auditions of borrowed components at home - cheap-Jack 08:04:51 04/10/03 (1)
- Re: single-blind auditions of borrowed components at home - BassNut 13:20:47 04/11/03 (0)
- A short defense of good reviews in Stereophile ... - clarkjohnsen 08:39:42 04/09/03 (0)
- Those are good points. nt - clarkjohnsen 13:46:51 04/07/03 (0)
- Gifted Listeners and RBT - tcain 08:17:12 04/06/03 (1)
- "They trust their ears." Oh come on... - clarkjohnsen 07:51:38 04/07/03 (0)
- Come to think, not a single DBT exists (that I know of)... - clarkjohnsen 08:02:08 04/05/03 (2)
- Err, Clark, how about the BBC and CRC MPEG tests, ferinstance? - jj 10:20:48 04/05/03 (1)
- I can bust 'em! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:44:35 04/07/03 (0)
- I have a hard time believing that no one has done a conclusive DBT with cables. - Penguin 10:27:53 04/04/03 (10)
- Re: I have a hard time believing that no one has done a conclusive DBT with cables. - john curl 11:14:04 04/04/03 (9)
- Just a few more pebbles... - Penguin 10:05:15 04/05/03 (5)
- the skeptics - Leisure7 16:12:46 04/05/03 (3)
- "...due to interactions rather than isolated cable properties." - clarkjohnsen 07:48:19 04/07/03 (2)
- What is the point here? - Penguin 19:10:41 04/07/03 (1)
- Just what we said. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:17:43 04/08/03 (0)
- Listen, you'll never get those people to *listen*. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:08:47 04/05/03 (0)
- A perfect example. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:58:36 04/05/03 (0)
- brilliant - D.B.. 21:32:22 04/04/03 (0)
- Re: I have a hard time believing that no one has done a conclusive DBT with cables. - NEAR SOTA 18:26:03 04/04/03 (0)
- It is the only way to remove bias from sighted testing. - Robert Hamel 12:13:05 04/02/03 (0)
- I will post a reply soon. (nt) - Jon Risch 22:04:45 04/01/03 (3)
- Note date of post (nt) - Corndog71 10:53:04 04/05/03 (0)
- (listens harder)... - clarkjohnsen 08:03:22 04/05/03 (0)
- (listens hard) ... - jj 20:30:12 04/03/03 (0)
- It depends on what you want to do. - jj 18:02:14 04/01/03 (0)
- Re: insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - Rod M 17:39:42 04/01/03 (1)
- Re: insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - Pat D 09:34:52 04/09/03 (0)
- Re: insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - NEAR SOTA 10:12:27 04/01/03 (0)
- DBT: The biggest "con" - clarkjohnsen 08:57:55 04/01/03 (46)
- Errrrrr..... - jj 17:55:02 04/01/03 (35)
- "Amateur DBT's" -- Aha! - clarkjohnsen 07:12:24 04/02/03 (34)
- It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - jj 17:32:19 04/02/03 (9)
- Geez Luiz, jj! The "whole sentence" ran on and on! - clarkjohnsen 07:28:32 04/03/03 (4)
- What on earth is an "amateur DBT" there really is no such thing! - NEAR SOTA 08:51:20 04/03/03 (3)
- What are you talking about, dude? - jj 18:47:42 04/03/03 (2)
- Re: What are you talking about, dude? - NEAR SOTA 22:50:08 04/03/03 (1)
- I don't think we're talking about the same subject... - jj 18:19:46 04/04/03 (0)
- Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - Steve Eddy 23:31:00 04/02/03 (3)
- Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - john k... 13:46:59 04/03/03 (1)
- Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - Steve Eddy 14:46:05 04/03/03 (0)
- Well that's a point! - clarkjohnsen 07:29:44 04/03/03 (0)
- Re: "Amateur DBT's" -- Aha! - Phil Tower 07:25:00 04/02/03 (23)
- I believe A professional DBT was conducted - Nightfly! 19:51:40 04/03/03 (0)
- Whoo boy! - clarkjohnsen 07:45:05 04/02/03 (21)
- Re: Whoo boy! - Phil Tower 06:08:56 04/03/03 (18)
- "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - clarkjohnsen 07:23:25 04/03/03 (17)
- Re: "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - Phil Tower 07:36:18 04/03/03 (16)
- Re: "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - cheap-Jack 09:09:43 04/04/03 (15)
- Re: "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - Phil Tower 10:06:12 04/05/03 (0)
- Thanks for the vote of confidence, bro'! - clarkjohnsen 07:54:51 04/05/03 (13)
- Re: Thanks for the vote of confidence, bro'! - Phil Tower 09:57:15 04/05/03 (12)
- "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - clarkjohnsen 10:07:12 04/05/03 (11)
- How much would it cost? - Penguin 13:07:49 04/06/03 (2)
- Tell me how many you want done. - clarkjohnsen 07:43:52 04/07/03 (1)
- Something dirt simple - Penguin 19:39:14 04/07/03 (0)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 11:01:05 04/06/03 (7)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - Phil Tower 09:36:39 04/07/03 (6)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 11:46:25 04/07/03 (5)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - Phil Tower 12:17:16 04/07/03 (4)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 11:28:52 04/08/03 (3)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - Phil Tower 14:58:28 04/08/03 (2)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 16:40:28 04/08/03 (1)
- Agreed (nt) - Phil Tower 18:03:57 04/08/03 (0)
- Re: Whoo boy! - Dan Banquer 18:05:07 04/02/03 (1)
- LOL! - NEAR SOTA 18:58:45 04/02/03 (0)
- Re: DBT: The biggest "con" - D.B.. 09:32:03 04/01/03 (9)
- A contrary example. - Leisure7 11:53:05 04/01/03 (7)
- Interesting - D.B.. 15:30:53 04/01/03 (1)
- Agree. - Leisure7 09:25:39 04/02/03 (0)
- Re: A contrary example. - LarryR 12:40:22 04/01/03 (4)
- Need for wide experience. - Leisure7 08:58:52 04/02/03 (1)
- Re: Need for wide experience. - LarryR 10:47:17 04/02/03 (0)
- Consider this - Corndog71 07:52:27 04/02/03 (0)
- "I'm only a music lover." Well gedouddahere den! nt - clarkjohnsen 13:12:13 04/01/03 (0)
- Very sensible. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:40:15 04/01/03 (0)
Follow Ups
- example - D.B.. 09:23:01 04/08/03 (1)
- Ah, yes, the SP-9. I can explain everything! - clarkjohnsen 08:45:32 04/09/03 (0)
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