In Reply to: Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark posted by john k... on April 3, 2003 at 13:46:59:
(JPK) Actually the don't really hear a difference at all. They have just learned that if the audio system keeps going on an off, playing the same music over and over again then their guy is trying something new. It's a conditioned response, "Boy I can really hear a
difference, honey. Did you change something (again)?" ;-)Hehehe. Yes, there's also patronizing to consider as well. :)
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - cheap-Jack 12:47:26 03/31/03 (89)
- Parts 2 and 3 are posted up top - Jon Risch 20:23:05 04/20/03 (0)
- Sighted auditions aren't valid for a very simple reason. - R. Hertz 21:37:04 04/11/03 (0)
- thanks jon, clearly presented (nt) - sunnysal 12:28:44 04/09/03 (0)
- DBT, Part 1 - Jon Risch 22:42:15 04/06/03 (13)
- I considered replying to this point by point... BUT - jj 18:28:36 04/08/03 (0)
- Re: I read every word. - tianguis 17:51:55 04/08/03 (0)
- example - D.B.. 09:23:01 04/08/03 (1)
- Ah, yes, the SP-9. I can explain everything! - clarkjohnsen 08:45:32 04/09/03 (0)
- You've laid good groundwork. nt - clarkjohnsen 13:44:29 04/07/03 (0)
- Sighted Auditions, Part 1 - BassNut 11:10:54 04/07/03 (7)
- Re: Sighted Auditions, Part 1 - E-Stat 13:43:45 04/09/03 (0)
- Re: Sighted Auditions, Part 1 - cheap-Jack 13:16:33 04/08/03 (4)
- single-blind auditions of borrowed components at home - BassNut 14:48:09 04/09/03 (2)
- Re: single-blind auditions of borrowed components at home - cheap-Jack 08:04:51 04/10/03 (1)
- Re: single-blind auditions of borrowed components at home - BassNut 13:20:47 04/11/03 (0)
- A short defense of good reviews in Stereophile ... - clarkjohnsen 08:39:42 04/09/03 (0)
- Those are good points. nt - clarkjohnsen 13:46:51 04/07/03 (0)
- Gifted Listeners and RBT - tcain 08:17:12 04/06/03 (1)
- "They trust their ears." Oh come on... - clarkjohnsen 07:51:38 04/07/03 (0)
- Come to think, not a single DBT exists (that I know of)... - clarkjohnsen 08:02:08 04/05/03 (2)
- Err, Clark, how about the BBC and CRC MPEG tests, ferinstance? - jj 10:20:48 04/05/03 (1)
- I can bust 'em! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:44:35 04/07/03 (0)
- I have a hard time believing that no one has done a conclusive DBT with cables. - Penguin 10:27:53 04/04/03 (10)
- Re: I have a hard time believing that no one has done a conclusive DBT with cables. - john curl 11:14:04 04/04/03 (9)
- Just a few more pebbles... - Penguin 10:05:15 04/05/03 (5)
- the skeptics - Leisure7 16:12:46 04/05/03 (3)
- "...due to interactions rather than isolated cable properties." - clarkjohnsen 07:48:19 04/07/03 (2)
- What is the point here? - Penguin 19:10:41 04/07/03 (1)
- Just what we said. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:17:43 04/08/03 (0)
- Listen, you'll never get those people to *listen*. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:08:47 04/05/03 (0)
- A perfect example. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:58:36 04/05/03 (0)
- brilliant - D.B.. 21:32:22 04/04/03 (0)
- Re: I have a hard time believing that no one has done a conclusive DBT with cables. - NEAR SOTA 18:26:03 04/04/03 (0)
- It is the only way to remove bias from sighted testing. - Robert Hamel 12:13:05 04/02/03 (0)
- I will post a reply soon. (nt) - Jon Risch 22:04:45 04/01/03 (3)
- Note date of post (nt) - Corndog71 10:53:04 04/05/03 (0)
- (listens harder)... - clarkjohnsen 08:03:22 04/05/03 (0)
- (listens hard) ... - jj 20:30:12 04/03/03 (0)
- It depends on what you want to do. - jj 18:02:14 04/01/03 (0)
- Re: insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - Rod M 17:39:42 04/01/03 (1)
- Re: insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - Pat D 09:34:52 04/09/03 (0)
- Re: insight of Jon Risch on 'blind listening tests' - NEAR SOTA 10:12:27 04/01/03 (0)
- DBT: The biggest "con" - clarkjohnsen 08:57:55 04/01/03 (46)
- Errrrrr..... - jj 17:55:02 04/01/03 (35)
- "Amateur DBT's" -- Aha! - clarkjohnsen 07:12:24 04/02/03 (34)
- It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - jj 17:32:19 04/02/03 (9)
- Geez Luiz, jj! The "whole sentence" ran on and on! - clarkjohnsen 07:28:32 04/03/03 (4)
- What on earth is an "amateur DBT" there really is no such thing! - NEAR SOTA 08:51:20 04/03/03 (3)
- What are you talking about, dude? - jj 18:47:42 04/03/03 (2)
- Re: What are you talking about, dude? - NEAR SOTA 22:50:08 04/03/03 (1)
- I don't think we're talking about the same subject... - jj 18:19:46 04/04/03 (0)
- Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - Steve Eddy 23:31:00 04/02/03 (3)
- Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - john k... 13:46:59 04/03/03 (1)
- Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - Steve Eddy 14:46:05 04/03/03 (0)
- Well that's a point! - clarkjohnsen 07:29:44 04/03/03 (0)
- Re: "Amateur DBT's" -- Aha! - Phil Tower 07:25:00 04/02/03 (23)
- I believe A professional DBT was conducted - Nightfly! 19:51:40 04/03/03 (0)
- Whoo boy! - clarkjohnsen 07:45:05 04/02/03 (21)
- Re: Whoo boy! - Phil Tower 06:08:56 04/03/03 (18)
- "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - clarkjohnsen 07:23:25 04/03/03 (17)
- Re: "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - Phil Tower 07:36:18 04/03/03 (16)
- Re: "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - cheap-Jack 09:09:43 04/04/03 (15)
- Re: "I mean, not to be rude..." -- Read on. - Phil Tower 10:06:12 04/05/03 (0)
- Thanks for the vote of confidence, bro'! - clarkjohnsen 07:54:51 04/05/03 (13)
- Re: Thanks for the vote of confidence, bro'! - Phil Tower 09:57:15 04/05/03 (12)
- "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - clarkjohnsen 10:07:12 04/05/03 (11)
- How much would it cost? - Penguin 13:07:49 04/06/03 (2)
- Tell me how many you want done. - clarkjohnsen 07:43:52 04/07/03 (1)
- Something dirt simple - Penguin 19:39:14 04/07/03 (0)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 11:01:05 04/06/03 (7)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - Phil Tower 09:36:39 04/07/03 (6)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 11:46:25 04/07/03 (5)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - Phil Tower 12:17:16 04/07/03 (4)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 11:28:52 04/08/03 (3)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - Phil Tower 14:58:28 04/08/03 (2)
- Re: "I make no demands on DBTs or on anyone." - john curl 16:40:28 04/08/03 (1)
- Agreed (nt) - Phil Tower 18:03:57 04/08/03 (0)
- Re: Whoo boy! - Dan Banquer 18:05:07 04/02/03 (1)
- LOL! - NEAR SOTA 18:58:45 04/02/03 (0)
- Re: DBT: The biggest "con" - D.B.. 09:32:03 04/01/03 (9)
- A contrary example. - Leisure7 11:53:05 04/01/03 (7)
- Interesting - D.B.. 15:30:53 04/01/03 (1)
- Agree. - Leisure7 09:25:39 04/02/03 (0)
- Re: A contrary example. - LarryR 12:40:22 04/01/03 (4)
- Need for wide experience. - Leisure7 08:58:52 04/02/03 (1)
- Re: Need for wide experience. - LarryR 10:47:17 04/02/03 (0)
- Consider this - Corndog71 07:52:27 04/02/03 (0)
- "I'm only a music lover." Well gedouddahere den! nt - clarkjohnsen 13:12:13 04/01/03 (0)
- Very sensible. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:40:15 04/01/03 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: It would be good of you to include the whole sentence, Clark - Steve Eddy 14:46:05 04/03/03 (0)