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In Reply to: RE: Great news! posted by TomLarson on July 11, 2007 at 12:22:18:
If Clark really had empirical testing done, that would have certainly eliminated some of the confusion we see on the various forums. I truly would have appreciated those results. Truthseekerprime need not conduct his own time consuming experimentation if this were so.
You had previously mentioned that you were going to order Clark's book and I had assumed that you were in communication with him. Hopefully, he had given you some information the rest of us had not received.
I see that it has not been forthcoming.
That is truly unfortunate, but in a way, not surprising.
Stu
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Critics beware!!!! - DeccaDevotee 08:02:19 07/03/07 (178)
- Inversely, could a consumer sue a critic for a boffo review that ended up with the product being "misrepresented?" - Enophile 11:00:20 07/11/07 (0)
- I just realized ... - bjh 10:20:44 07/06/07 (0)
- A Lesson for Budding Critics - Larry I 05:47:23 07/06/07 (2)
- RE: A Lesson for Budding Critics - the roofman 10:01:41 07/08/07 (0)
- RE: Fifth Heaven - Dr. S 22:33:27 07/07/07 (0)
- I will stop being critical... - Arvind Kohli 09:22:29 07/05/07 (0)
- RE: Critics beware!!!! - Bruce from DC 08:25:55 07/05/07 (1)
- RE: Critics beware!!!!..in Australia at least! - Halcroman 17:38:29 07/05/07 (0)
- RE: Critics beware!!!! - CSF 02:10:30 07/04/07 (0)
- RE: Fair is fair .... - Dr. S 21:51:19 07/03/07 (0)
- Jeez, that seems ludicrous to me. - Rick W 11:02:38 07/03/07 (6)
- RE: Jeez, that seems ludicrous to me. - Halcroman 19:31:55 07/03/07 (5)
- Yeah, but.... - Rick W 22:29:44 07/03/07 (4)
- They are trying to make critisim like... - JMCIII 13:50:20 07/07/07 (0)
- \\\seems like just plain old restriction of free speech to me///......... - three_sox 05:12:00 07/05/07 (1)
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- RE: Yeah, but....I'm not disagreeing - Halcroman 22:40:02 07/03/07 (0)
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- Maybe he just didn't like the amplifier and the sad thing is that people cared what he liked - Richard BassNut Greene 07:32:36 07/06/07 (3)
- Wrong again (as usual). "With multi-track recordings typical of modern recordings..." - clarkjohnsen 08:18:09 07/06/07 (2)
- Amazing how you "know" exactly what a reviewer heard and what recordings he used without being there - Richard BassNut Greene 13:37:40 07/06/07 (1)
- It is, isn't it? Pity for you the proof exists, so cease with the sarcasm already. It's highly unbecoming. nt - clarkjohnsen 06:40:40 07/07/07 (0)
- What's sadder is that... - kuma 13:23:22 07/04/07 (0)
- Question - TomLarson 12:33:19 07/03/07 (154)
- RE: Question - john curl 09:05:29 07/04/07 (88)
- RE: Question - unclestu52 01:20:46 07/07/07 (6)
- Really? - E-Stat 09:19:31 07/07/07 (4)
- RE: Really? - unclestu52 11:22:09 07/07/07 (3)
- He does enjoy "power listening" - E-Stat 12:23:18 07/07/07 (2)
- Isn't power listening contradictory to what HP considers standard? - Ozzie 16:25:55 07/07/07 (1)
- Not at all - E-Stat 04:58:50 07/08/07 (0)
- RE: Question - john curl 07:09:22 07/07/07 (0)
- RE: Question - TomLarson 13:05:38 07/04/07 (1)
- RE: Question - john curl 13:40:08 07/04/07 (0)
- At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - E-Stat 11:57:33 07/04/07 (67)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - the roofman 10:14:41 07/08/07 (1)
- Sure - E-Stat 12:36:19 07/08/07 (0)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - Dave Pogue 13:51:18 07/04/07 (1)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - john curl 14:05:05 07/04/07 (0)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - john curl 12:20:21 07/04/07 (62)
- Set aside the alleged interpersonal subtrafuge for a moment - E-Stat 16:36:51 07/04/07 (58)
- RE: Set aside the alleged interpersonal subtrafuge for a moment - john curl 17:06:26 07/04/07 (57)
- Let's take this one step at a time - E-Stat 22:04:15 07/04/07 (54)
- RE: Let's take this one step at a time - the roofman 10:21:57 07/08/07 (1)
- I suspect he was not referring to drums - LOL ! (nt) - E-Stat 10:50:38 07/08/07 (0)
- RE: Let's take this one step at a time - john curl 22:29:57 07/04/07 (51)
- Only endless - E-Stat 08:12:58 07/05/07 (50)
- The PROBLEM was that HP's initial impressions were gained from listening "out of phase". - clarkjohnsen 09:09:09 07/05/07 (0)
- RE: Only endless - Brian Walsh 08:41:17 07/05/07 (48)
- Reading the actual review yesterday from issue 61 - E-Stat 08:57:04 07/05/07 (47)
- So... - Brian Walsh 09:51:47 07/05/07 (46)
- Geez - E-Stat 10:18:48 07/05/07 (45)
- RE: Geez - jamesgarvin 12:20:39 07/05/07 (44)
- Would it go away? - E-Stat 12:45:27 07/05/07 (43)
- RE: Would it go away? - jamesgarvin 14:04:39 07/05/07 (38)
- Ok, ok, HP speaks again - E-Stat 15:19:06 07/05/07 (37)
- RE: Ok, ok, HP speaks again - jamesgarvin 08:26:37 07/06/07 (27)
- Why should anyone - E-Stat 08:42:51 07/06/07 (26)
- RE: Why should anyone - jamesgarvin 11:53:18 07/06/07 (25)
- Reread my comments - E-Stat 13:46:38 07/06/07 (24)
- RE: Reread my comments - jamesgarvin 16:02:26 07/06/07 (23)
- So, for how many years - E-Stat 19:38:17 07/06/07 (22)
- RE: So, for how many years - jamesgarvin 12:44:51 07/07/07 (21)
- Ask him then - E-Stat 14:13:04 07/07/07 (19)
- I e-mailed him. Posit a guess when I'll get a response with the answer?nt - jamesgarvin 15:15:36 07/07/07 (0)
- RE: Ask him then - TomLarson 14:51:25 07/07/07 (17)
- Yeah well ... - bjh 20:51:20 07/07/07 (16)
- RE: Yeah well ... - TomLarson 09:51:16 07/08/07 (15)
- RE: Yeah well ... - john curl 10:49:24 07/08/07 (14)
- RE: Yeah well ... - John Atkinson 16:27:01 07/09/07 (12)
- RE: Yeah well ... - john curl 18:25:14 07/09/07 (11)
- RE: Yeah well ... - john curl 21:58:27 07/09/07 (10)
- RE: Yeah well ... - Steve Eddy 09:04:43 07/10/07 (9)
- Speaking of whom... - Brian Walsh 10:14:26 07/10/07 (8)
- RE: Speaking of whom... - John Atkinson 13:40:45 07/10/07 (2)
- I want to be the first to say I've used the product on CD's and now they sound like LP's .....nt - TomLarson 17:44:36 07/10/07 (0)
- RE: Speaking of whom... - john curl 14:48:48 07/10/07 (0)
- RE: Speaking of whom... - Steve Eddy 11:15:31 07/10/07 (4)
- RE: Speaking of whom... - Brian Walsh 12:02:42 07/10/07 (3)
- RE: Speaking of whom... - Steve Eddy 12:48:50 07/10/07 (2)
- RE: Speaking of whom... - john curl 13:20:03 07/10/07 (1)
- RE: Speaking of whom... - Steve Eddy 13:46:31 07/10/07 (0)
- RE: Yeah well ... - TomLarson 11:00:33 07/08/07 (0)
- LOL. nt - TomLarson 13:04:59 07/07/07 (0)
- RE: Ok, ok, HP speaks again - john curl 19:02:23 07/05/07 (7)
- Why did you call the product line "vendetta"? nt - bjh 07:36:58 07/06/07 (6)
- RE: Why did you call the product line "vendetta"? nt - john curl 08:29:42 07/06/07 (5)
- Hmmmm...? - bjh 08:37:38 07/06/07 (4)
- RE: Hmmmm...? - john curl 09:24:59 07/06/07 (3)
- Look ... - bjh 09:45:29 07/06/07 (2)
- RE: Look ... - john curl 12:05:35 07/06/07 (1)
- 65 - bjh 12:47:48 07/06/07 (0)
- Totally amazing to me that he can't be bothered to answer questions here himself - TomLarson 17:33:01 07/05/07 (0)
- "...by somehow his not being aware of a phase issue." Were he aware of the issue... - clarkjohnsen 12:54:42 07/05/07 (3)
- Well - E-Stat 14:03:13 07/05/07 (2)
- Didn't HP - unclestu52 01:55:25 07/07/07 (0)
- "HE LISTENED TO IT BOTH WAYS AND KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 09:11:15 07/06/07 (0)
- John, I've seen you mention the tubes vs. ss thing before, and.... - Rick W 17:19:52 07/04/07 (1)
- RE: John, I've seen you mention the tubes vs. ss thing before, and.... - john curl 19:29:37 07/04/07 (0)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - newyorkp7 12:34:12 07/04/07 (2)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - john curl 13:33:08 07/04/07 (1)
- RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - newyorkp7 13:43:48 07/04/07 (0)
- This is what you said in a post below..... - Rick W 10:01:41 07/04/07 (10)
- RE: This is what you said in a post below..... - john curl 10:39:53 07/04/07 (9)
- RE: This is what you said in a post below..... - muser 11:00:44 07/04/07 (8)
- I think the issue is distribution, Larry - Bruce from DC 09:01:33 07/05/07 (5)
- as an aside: during HP's heyday dealers grew tired of the - jim@signalpath 14:05:46 07/07/07 (0)
- RE: I think the issue is distribution, Larry - muser 12:18:03 07/07/07 (2)
- RE: I think the issue is distribution, Larry - Bruce from DC 08:54:39 07/09/07 (1)
- What? - muser 09:40:02 07/10/07 (0)
- And then there are switcheroos from the manufacturer - E-Stat 10:44:56 07/05/07 (0)
- yes, but gimme a break... that's irrelevant - luigi22 11:39:36 07/04/07 (0)
- Exactly. nt - Rick W 11:37:53 07/04/07 (0)
- You've got it right - E-Stat 07:57:54 07/04/07 (12)
- RE: You've got it right - Dave Pogue 08:38:19 07/04/07 (11)
- Prolly the same way most folks do on a regular basis (nt) - E-Stat 11:29:25 07/04/07 (7)
- Most folks don't do it at all - Dave Pogue 11:38:54 07/04/07 (6)
- No, I don't - E-Stat 11:48:14 07/04/07 (5)
- I could have sworn you just said "most folks do on a regular basis." - Dave Pogue 12:22:46 07/04/07 (4)
- Sorry to have failed to convey my facetiousness :) - E-Stat 16:10:58 07/04/07 (2)
- RE: Sorry to have failed to convey my facetiousness :) - john curl 16:26:03 07/04/07 (1)
- RE: Sorry to have failed to convey my facetiousness :) - ontrack2@gmail.com 18:54:47 07/04/07 (0)
- RE: I could have sworn you just said "most folks do on a regular basis." - TomLarson 13:12:48 07/04/07 (0)
- RE: You've got it right - TomLarson 09:01:43 07/04/07 (2)
- tAS at least is getting paid for their mush! nt - TomLarson 17:25:53 07/05/07 (0)
- The same thing that goes on for 'most every system! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:02:08 07/05/07 (0)
- RE: Question - john.potis@comcast.net 13:37:40 07/03/07 (51)
- That is precisely true. Which fact was revealed to the world... - clarkjohnsen 08:57:32 07/05/07 (0)
- Certainly an interesting thought! nt - TomLarson 17:24:43 07/03/07 (0)
- RE: Question - Dave Pogue 14:50:24 07/03/07 (48)
- RE: Question - unclestu52 17:04:04 07/07/07 (1)
- I haven't heard all the Mercs myself - Dave Pogue 17:24:39 07/07/07 (0)
- "...were recorded in inverted polarity." Which is defined how, exactly, in the groove? nt - clarkjohnsen 08:59:04 07/05/07 (3)
- Why don't you define it for us heathen? - Dave Pogue 13:41:20 07/05/07 (2)
- If you reject the AES proposed standards - unclestu52 17:06:52 07/07/07 (0)
- A mild-mannered question gets an obnoxious response? That's you! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:04:28 07/06/07 (0)
- RE: Question - TomLarson 17:23:56 07/03/07 (41)
- NO!!! - clarkjohnsen 09:01:02 07/05/07 (37)
- RE: NO!!! - TomLarson 19:06:43 07/06/07 (32)
- Yes, that remark is false. - clarkjohnsen 06:56:08 07/07/07 (31)
- Stew, who? - Dave Pogue 15:06:42 07/07/07 (29)
- "...marginally more useful than your usual posts, Clark." Thanks, Teach. - clarkjohnsen 09:11:34 07/09/07 (2)
- See link. - Dave Pogue 09:57:38 07/09/07 (1)
- See the truth instead; or live with the lie. - clarkjohnsen 10:20:58 07/09/07 (0)
- Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - TomLarson 16:32:48 07/07/07 (25)
- RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - Dave Pogue 16:52:05 07/07/07 (24)
- "Clark could be leading this charge but isn't. He'd obviously rather gripe about me." - clarkjohnsen 09:20:00 07/09/07 (0)
- RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - TomLarson 18:52:10 07/07/07 (22)
- RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - Dave Pogue 19:08:50 07/07/07 (21)
- "Clark tends to focus on what Fredell may have gotten wrong." Oh geez Luiz! - clarkjohnsen 09:27:21 07/09/07 (0)
- RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - TomLarson 09:54:08 07/08/07 (19)
- here's the issue in different words - unclestu52 22:56:59 07/08/07 (18)
- RE: here's the issue in different words - TomLarson 17:48:56 07/09/07 (8)
- Man you sure got him riled. In response he issues more lies, lies, lies. Congratulatios, I guess. - clarkjohnsen 08:35:19 07/10/07 (1)
- Au contraire - unclestu52 19:03:36 07/10/07 (0)
- I wrote a monogram about polarity - unclestu52 19:25:27 07/09/07 (5)
- Did you mean "monograph" ? .........nt - TomLarson 11:33:57 07/10/07 (0)
- RE: I wrote a monogram about polarity - TomLarson 09:32:29 07/10/07 (3)
- I make no claim to be - unclestu52 18:53:28 07/10/07 (2)
- RE: I make no claim to be - TomLarson 10:43:24 07/11/07 (1)
- Sigh! - unclestu52 12:27:37 07/11/07 (0)
- My feelings precisely. - Dave Pogue 04:44:51 07/09/07 (8)
- Your binary's message above on polarity resembles your own -- - clarkjohnsen 10:19:19 07/09/07 (7)
- Your dodging of the issue - unclestu52 22:33:05 07/09/07 (6)
- RE: Your dodging of the issue - TomLarson 17:47:06 07/10/07 (5)
- I'm no physicist - unclestu52 20:10:12 07/10/07 (4)
- RE: I'm no physicist - TomLarson 10:47:30 07/11/07 (3)
- Great news! - unclestu52 12:09:28 07/11/07 (2)
- RE: Great news! - TomLarson 12:22:18 07/11/07 (1)
- I am disappointed - unclestu52 12:36:31 07/11/07 (0)
- RE: Yes, that remark is false. - TomLarson 08:54:33 07/07/07 (0)
- "Harry's system was polarized" - Dave Pogue 13:45:05 07/05/07 (3)
- A mild-mannered remark gets an obnoxious response? That's you! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:06:16 07/06/07 (2)
- Talk about conservation of energy! - Dave Pogue 09:21:21 07/06/07 (1)
- RE: Talk about conservation of energy! - TomLarson 19:07:48 07/06/07 (0)
- That's pretty much my point - Dave Pogue 03:39:23 07/04/07 (2)
- RE: That's pretty much my point - TomLarson 09:00:19 07/04/07 (1)
- RE: That's pretty much my point - john curl 09:09:30 07/04/07 (0)
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- I am disappointed - unclestu52 12:36:31 07/11/07 (0)