A Lesson for Budding Critics

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Topic - Critics beware!!!! - DeccaDevotee 08:02:19 07/03/07 (178)

Inversely, could a consumer sue a critic for a boffo review that ended up with the product being "misrepresented?" - Enophile 11:00:20 07/11/07 (0)

I just realized ... - bjh 10:20:44 07/06/07 (0)

A Lesson for Budding Critics - Larry I 05:47:23 07/06/07 (2)

RE: A Lesson for Budding Critics - the roofman 10:01:41 07/08/07 (0)

RE: Fifth Heaven - Dr. S 22:33:27 07/07/07 (0)

I will stop being critical... - Arvind Kohli 09:22:29 07/05/07 (0)

RE: Critics beware!!!! - Bruce from DC 08:25:55 07/05/07 (1)

RE: Critics beware!!!!..in Australia at least! - Halcroman 17:38:29 07/05/07 (0)

RE: Critics beware!!!! - CSF 02:10:30 07/04/07 (0)

RE: Fair is fair .... - Dr. S 21:51:19 07/03/07 (0)

Jeez, that seems ludicrous to me. - Rick W 11:02:38 07/03/07 (6)

RE: Jeez, that seems ludicrous to me. - Halcroman 19:31:55 07/03/07 (5)

Yeah, but.... - Rick W 22:29:44 07/03/07 (4)

They are trying to make critisim like... - JMCIII 13:50:20 07/07/07 (0)

\\\seems like just plain old restriction of free speech to me///......... - three_sox 05:12:00 07/05/07 (1)

Quite right. - regmac 18:41:56 07/09/07 (0)

RE: Yeah, but....I'm not disagreeing - Halcroman 22:40:02 07/03/07 (0)

Yes. Frightening. And oddly (ironically?) in the case of Curl... - clarkjohnsen 10:15:09 07/03/07 (160)

Maybe he just didn't like the amplifier and the sad thing is that people cared what he liked - Richard BassNut Greene 07:32:36 07/06/07 (3)

Wrong again (as usual). "With multi-track recordings typical of modern recordings..." - clarkjohnsen 08:18:09 07/06/07 (2)

Amazing how you "know" exactly what a reviewer heard and what recordings he used without being there - Richard BassNut Greene 13:37:40 07/06/07 (1)

It is, isn't it? Pity for you the proof exists, so cease with the sarcasm already. It's highly unbecoming. nt - clarkjohnsen 06:40:40 07/07/07 (0)

What's sadder is that... - kuma 13:23:22 07/04/07 (0)

Question - TomLarson 12:33:19 07/03/07 (154)

RE: Question - john curl 09:05:29 07/04/07 (88)

RE: Question - unclestu52 01:20:46 07/07/07 (6)

Really? - E-Stat 09:19:31 07/07/07 (4)

RE: Really? - unclestu52 11:22:09 07/07/07 (3)

He does enjoy "power listening" - E-Stat 12:23:18 07/07/07 (2)

Isn't power listening contradictory to what HP considers standard? - Ozzie 16:25:55 07/07/07 (1)

Not at all - E-Stat 04:58:50 07/08/07 (0)

RE: Question - john curl 07:09:22 07/07/07 (0)

RE: Question - TomLarson 13:05:38 07/04/07 (1)

RE: Question - john curl 13:40:08 07/04/07 (0)

At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - E-Stat 11:57:33 07/04/07 (67)

RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - the roofman 10:14:41 07/08/07 (1)

Sure - E-Stat 12:36:19 07/08/07 (0)

RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - Dave Pogue 13:51:18 07/04/07 (1)

RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - john curl 14:05:05 07/04/07 (0)

RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - john curl 12:20:21 07/04/07 (62)

Set aside the alleged interpersonal subtrafuge for a moment - E-Stat 16:36:51 07/04/07 (58)

RE: Set aside the alleged interpersonal subtrafuge for a moment - john curl 17:06:26 07/04/07 (57)

Let's take this one step at a time - E-Stat 22:04:15 07/04/07 (54)

RE: Let's take this one step at a time - the roofman 10:21:57 07/08/07 (1)

I suspect he was not referring to drums - LOL ! (nt) - E-Stat 10:50:38 07/08/07 (0)

RE: Let's take this one step at a time - john curl 22:29:57 07/04/07 (51)

Only endless - E-Stat 08:12:58 07/05/07 (50)

The PROBLEM was that HP's initial impressions were gained from listening "out of phase". - clarkjohnsen 09:09:09 07/05/07 (0)

RE: Only endless - Brian Walsh 08:41:17 07/05/07 (48)

Reading the actual review yesterday from issue 61 - E-Stat 08:57:04 07/05/07 (47)

So... - Brian Walsh 09:51:47 07/05/07 (46)

Geez - E-Stat 10:18:48 07/05/07 (45)

RE: Geez - jamesgarvin 12:20:39 07/05/07 (44)

Would it go away? - E-Stat 12:45:27 07/05/07 (43)

RE: Would it go away? - jamesgarvin 14:04:39 07/05/07 (38)

Ok, ok, HP speaks again - E-Stat 15:19:06 07/05/07 (37)

RE: Ok, ok, HP speaks again - jamesgarvin 08:26:37 07/06/07 (27)

Why should anyone - E-Stat 08:42:51 07/06/07 (26)

RE: Why should anyone - jamesgarvin 11:53:18 07/06/07 (25)

Reread my comments - E-Stat 13:46:38 07/06/07 (24)

RE: Reread my comments - jamesgarvin 16:02:26 07/06/07 (23)

So, for how many years - E-Stat 19:38:17 07/06/07 (22)

RE: So, for how many years - jamesgarvin 12:44:51 07/07/07 (21)

Ask him then - E-Stat 14:13:04 07/07/07 (19)

I e-mailed him. Posit a guess when I'll get a response with the answer?nt - jamesgarvin 15:15:36 07/07/07 (0)

RE: Ask him then - TomLarson 14:51:25 07/07/07 (17)

Yeah well ... - bjh 20:51:20 07/07/07 (16)

RE: Yeah well ... - TomLarson 09:51:16 07/08/07 (15)

RE: Yeah well ... - john curl 10:49:24 07/08/07 (14)

RE: Yeah well ... - John Atkinson 16:27:01 07/09/07 (12)

RE: Yeah well ... - john curl 18:25:14 07/09/07 (11)

RE: Yeah well ... - john curl 21:58:27 07/09/07 (10)

RE: Yeah well ... - Steve Eddy 09:04:43 07/10/07 (9)

Speaking of whom... - Brian Walsh 10:14:26 07/10/07 (8)

RE: Speaking of whom... - John Atkinson 13:40:45 07/10/07 (2)

I want to be the first to say I've used the product on CD's and now they sound like LP's .....nt - TomLarson 17:44:36 07/10/07 (0)

RE: Speaking of whom... - john curl 14:48:48 07/10/07 (0)

RE: Speaking of whom... - Steve Eddy 11:15:31 07/10/07 (4)

RE: Speaking of whom... - Brian Walsh 12:02:42 07/10/07 (3)

RE: Speaking of whom... - Steve Eddy 12:48:50 07/10/07 (2)

RE: Speaking of whom... - john curl 13:20:03 07/10/07 (1)

RE: Speaking of whom... - Steve Eddy 13:46:31 07/10/07 (0)

RE: Yeah well ... - TomLarson 11:00:33 07/08/07 (0)

LOL. nt - TomLarson 13:04:59 07/07/07 (0)

RE: Ok, ok, HP speaks again - john curl 19:02:23 07/05/07 (7)

Why did you call the product line "vendetta"? nt - bjh 07:36:58 07/06/07 (6)

RE: Why did you call the product line "vendetta"? nt - john curl 08:29:42 07/06/07 (5)

Hmmmm...? - bjh 08:37:38 07/06/07 (4)

RE: Hmmmm...? - john curl 09:24:59 07/06/07 (3)

Look ... - bjh 09:45:29 07/06/07 (2)

RE: Look ... - john curl 12:05:35 07/06/07 (1)

65 - bjh 12:47:48 07/06/07 (0)

Totally amazing to me that he can't be bothered to answer questions here himself - TomLarson 17:33:01 07/05/07 (0)

"...by somehow his not being aware of a phase issue." Were he aware of the issue... - clarkjohnsen 12:54:42 07/05/07 (3)

Well - E-Stat 14:03:13 07/05/07 (2)

Didn't HP - unclestu52 01:55:25 07/07/07 (0)

"HE LISTENED TO IT BOTH WAYS AND KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE." LOL! - clarkjohnsen 09:11:15 07/06/07 (0)

John, I've seen you mention the tubes vs. ss thing before, and.... - Rick W 17:19:52 07/04/07 (1)

RE: John, I've seen you mention the tubes vs. ss thing before, and.... - john curl 19:29:37 07/04/07 (0)

RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - newyorkp7 12:34:12 07/04/07 (2)

RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - john curl 13:33:08 07/04/07 (1)

RE: At the expense of confusing the issue with facts - newyorkp7 13:43:48 07/04/07 (0)

This is what you said in a post below..... - Rick W 10:01:41 07/04/07 (10)

RE: This is what you said in a post below..... - john curl 10:39:53 07/04/07 (9)

RE: This is what you said in a post below..... - muser 11:00:44 07/04/07 (8)

I think the issue is distribution, Larry - Bruce from DC 09:01:33 07/05/07 (5)

as an aside: during HP's heyday dealers grew tired of the - jim@signalpath 14:05:46 07/07/07 (0)

RE: I think the issue is distribution, Larry - muser 12:18:03 07/07/07 (2)

RE: I think the issue is distribution, Larry - Bruce from DC 08:54:39 07/09/07 (1)

What? - muser 09:40:02 07/10/07 (0)

And then there are switcheroos from the manufacturer - E-Stat 10:44:56 07/05/07 (0)

yes, but gimme a break... that's irrelevant - luigi22 11:39:36 07/04/07 (0)

Exactly. nt - Rick W 11:37:53 07/04/07 (0)

You've got it right - E-Stat 07:57:54 07/04/07 (12)

RE: You've got it right - Dave Pogue 08:38:19 07/04/07 (11)

Prolly the same way most folks do on a regular basis (nt) - E-Stat 11:29:25 07/04/07 (7)

Most folks don't do it at all - Dave Pogue 11:38:54 07/04/07 (6)

No, I don't - E-Stat 11:48:14 07/04/07 (5)

I could have sworn you just said "most folks do on a regular basis." - Dave Pogue 12:22:46 07/04/07 (4)

Sorry to have failed to convey my facetiousness :) - E-Stat 16:10:58 07/04/07 (2)

RE: Sorry to have failed to convey my facetiousness :) - john curl 16:26:03 07/04/07 (1)

RE: Sorry to have failed to convey my facetiousness :) - ontrack2@gmail.com 18:54:47 07/04/07 (0)

RE: I could have sworn you just said "most folks do on a regular basis." - TomLarson 13:12:48 07/04/07 (0)

RE: You've got it right - TomLarson 09:01:43 07/04/07 (2)

tAS at least is getting paid for their mush! nt - TomLarson 17:25:53 07/05/07 (0)

The same thing that goes on for 'most every system! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:02:08 07/05/07 (0)

RE: Question - john.potis@comcast.net 13:37:40 07/03/07 (51)

That is precisely true. Which fact was revealed to the world... - clarkjohnsen 08:57:32 07/05/07 (0)

Certainly an interesting thought! nt - TomLarson 17:24:43 07/03/07 (0)

RE: Question - Dave Pogue 14:50:24 07/03/07 (48)

RE: Question - unclestu52 17:04:04 07/07/07 (1)

I haven't heard all the Mercs myself - Dave Pogue 17:24:39 07/07/07 (0)

"...were recorded in inverted polarity." Which is defined how, exactly, in the groove? nt - clarkjohnsen 08:59:04 07/05/07 (3)

Why don't you define it for us heathen? - Dave Pogue 13:41:20 07/05/07 (2)

If you reject the AES proposed standards - unclestu52 17:06:52 07/07/07 (0)

A mild-mannered question gets an obnoxious response? That's you! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:04:28 07/06/07 (0)

RE: Question - TomLarson 17:23:56 07/03/07 (41)

NO!!! - clarkjohnsen 09:01:02 07/05/07 (37)

RE: NO!!! - TomLarson 19:06:43 07/06/07 (32)

Yes, that remark is false. - clarkjohnsen 06:56:08 07/07/07 (31)

Stew, who? - Dave Pogue 15:06:42 07/07/07 (29)

"...marginally more useful than your usual posts, Clark." Thanks, Teach. - clarkjohnsen 09:11:34 07/09/07 (2)

See link. - Dave Pogue 09:57:38 07/09/07 (1)

See the truth instead; or live with the lie. - clarkjohnsen 10:20:58 07/09/07 (0)

Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - TomLarson 16:32:48 07/07/07 (25)

RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - Dave Pogue 16:52:05 07/07/07 (24)

"Clark could be leading this charge but isn't. He'd obviously rather gripe about me." - clarkjohnsen 09:20:00 07/09/07 (0)

RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - TomLarson 18:52:10 07/07/07 (22)

RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - Dave Pogue 19:08:50 07/07/07 (21)

"Clark tends to focus on what Fredell may have gotten wrong." Oh geez Luiz! - clarkjohnsen 09:27:21 07/09/07 (0)

RE: Switch the speaker leads when a disk sounds bad......?? nt - TomLarson 09:54:08 07/08/07 (19)

here's the issue in different words - unclestu52 22:56:59 07/08/07 (18)

RE: here's the issue in different words - TomLarson 17:48:56 07/09/07 (8)

Man you sure got him riled. In response he issues more lies, lies, lies. Congratulatios, I guess. - clarkjohnsen 08:35:19 07/10/07 (1)

Au contraire - unclestu52 19:03:36 07/10/07 (0)

I wrote a monogram about polarity - unclestu52 19:25:27 07/09/07 (5)

Did you mean "monograph" ? .........nt - TomLarson 11:33:57 07/10/07 (0)

RE: I wrote a monogram about polarity - TomLarson 09:32:29 07/10/07 (3)

I make no claim to be - unclestu52 18:53:28 07/10/07 (2)

RE: I make no claim to be - TomLarson 10:43:24 07/11/07 (1)

Sigh! - unclestu52 12:27:37 07/11/07 (0)

My feelings precisely. - Dave Pogue 04:44:51 07/09/07 (8)

Your binary's message above on polarity resembles your own -- - clarkjohnsen 10:19:19 07/09/07 (7)

Your dodging of the issue - unclestu52 22:33:05 07/09/07 (6)

RE: Your dodging of the issue - TomLarson 17:47:06 07/10/07 (5)

I'm no physicist - unclestu52 20:10:12 07/10/07 (4)

RE: I'm no physicist - TomLarson 10:47:30 07/11/07 (3)

Great news! - unclestu52 12:09:28 07/11/07 (2)

RE: Great news! - TomLarson 12:22:18 07/11/07 (1)

I am disappointed - unclestu52 12:36:31 07/11/07 (0)

RE: Yes, that remark is false. - TomLarson 08:54:33 07/07/07 (0)

"Harry's system was polarized" - Dave Pogue 13:45:05 07/05/07 (3)

A mild-mannered remark gets an obnoxious response? That's you! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:06:16 07/06/07 (2)

Talk about conservation of energy! - Dave Pogue 09:21:21 07/06/07 (1)

RE: Talk about conservation of energy! - TomLarson 19:07:48 07/06/07 (0)

That's pretty much my point - Dave Pogue 03:39:23 07/04/07 (2)

RE: That's pretty much my point - TomLarson 09:00:19 07/04/07 (1)

RE: That's pretty much my point - john curl 09:09:30 07/04/07 (0)

Follow Ups

A Lesson for Budding Critics - Larry I 05:47:23 07/06/07 (2)

RE: A Lesson for Budding Critics - the roofman 10:01:41 07/08/07 (0)

RE: Fifth Heaven - Dr. S 22:33:27 07/07/07 (0)

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