In Reply to: RE: posted by Abel McCain on June 14, 2007 at 01:50:15:
"Whatever, my point concerns widespread exposure."
Mine too.
" Anyway, it is hard for me to believe that so many composers, many of them living and working in close proximity to their fellow "common men", thought of nobody they knew and loved intimately, and of nothing else but pleasing their rich patrons, when they composed classical music for Sunday service or otherwise."
Of course they didn't, but the people they knew and loved and thought of would be a very small proportion of the communities in which they lived.
" I believe that no small number of common men must have looked forward to Sunday service, if for no other reason than to hear the latest and greatest wall-shaking fugue, or perhaps a tinkling choral."
Perhaps no small number looked forward to Sunday service, but it would be a much smaller number who could look forward to that service in a church or cathedral large enough and rich enough to hold an organ capable of delivering a wall-shaking fugue, and the number reduces once again when we add the 'latest' to the description. Ditto for the choir and choral.
The kinds of church/cathedral that could employ a Bach or other composer as organist and choir master, and expect to hear a new composition each Sunday, were in the minority and they would also have largely been in the cities and major towns. The common man, especially in rural areas, would not have gone to such a church nor heard the same sort of music. Exposure depends on access and the fact that some common people would have had access to such services definitely does not mean that all would. I think the ones that did would be in the minority.
"But a lot of what we have to say about the past is speculation, I'll admit."
True.
And time to call it quits. All I'm doing here is quibbling about the degree of a particular sort of exposure and saying I think it was much lower than you think.
It's been an interesting discussion.
David Aiken
David Aiken
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Follow Ups
- RE: - David Aiken 17:11:02 06/14/07 (4)
- do RE mi: Equipment - Abel McCain 19:06:47 06/14/07 (3)
- RE: do RE mi: Equipment (notation) - Abel McCain 20:46:29 06/14/07 (2)
- RE: do RE mi: Equipment (notation) - David Aiken 14:43:00 06/15/07 (1)
- Accentuation noted, thanks. (nt) - Abel McCain 18:49:56 06/15/07 (0)