In Reply to: RE: My computers give me a lot more trouble than my music players posted by Bob_C on July 23, 2015 at 10:34:48:
It would be fascinating to know who the "couple of people" you think are making the noise. (LOL)
Does anyone who disagrees with you mean that they are ignorant and disruptive, making it not possible to have a "good discussion?" Are you so insecure in your solution that you have to go out of your way to label people who compare & use several different solutions, "precious streamer guys?" Is there a party-line that some people need to be forced to toe?Considering the two people who I think that you're referring to, both are running computer based solutions, and are, in fact, more familiar with several different types of solutions than you are: neither of these two people START contentious threads that have as their essence, criticizing a solution that they themselves employ.
You're starting all of the "noise" with your claims and criticisms of high end audio manufacturers, - who are much better at the most important aspects of producing higher performing audio than traditional commercial, multi-purpose computers. (This is proven out historically, & presently, long before their ever was digital file playback, - with CD players, amplifiers, speakers, etc). But you won't know, because you won't try, (as is the case with other naysayers who try to assert things like NAD amps sound the same as LAMMs). But unfortunately, that doesn't stop you from criticizing.""My computers are no different from the dedicated streamers that are being foisted on us by the audio manufacturers.""
That has been PROVEN, - without a doubt, - to be 100% false. And, especially, - with only about 6 of these devices out there: they are hardly "foisted" by audio manufacturers. Wavelength, - who brought us the USB solution, is an Audio designer-manufacturer. Logitech is not an audio manufacturer.
When it is really difficult to have a good discussion is when someone with an anti-high performance audio agendae comes on an high performance audio website and is uninformed about the components involved in high performing audio devices. (Hint: the power supply is far more important than any OS and/or digital file playback software).The irony of your accusations is not lost considering your lack of experience: experience being the most critical aspect of having a "good discussion." For with experience comes the realization that good sound can be achieved with either approach.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
Edits: 07/23/15
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- Are you trying to moderate the forum to only include your viewpoint ? - Sordidman 12:31:25 07/23/15 (33)
- RE: Are you trying to moderate the forum to only include your viewpoint ? - Sprezza Tura 15:21:41 07/23/15 (0)
- RE: Are you trying to moderate the forum to only include your viewpoint ? - Bob_C 14:48:21 07/23/15 (31)
- I can see where you'd have trouble understanding 1 simple concept - Sordidman 19:08:05 07/23/15 (3)
- RE: I can see where you'd have trouble understanding 1 simple concept - Bob_C 21:25:30 07/23/15 (2)
- YOU'VE NEVER LISTENED TO THE GEAR - Sordidman 06:09:31 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: YOU'VE NEVER LISTENED TO THE GEAR - Bob_C 09:43:50 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: Are you trying to moderate the forum to only include your viewpoint ? - AbeCollins 17:58:32 07/23/15 (6)
- LOL, poor persecuted PC tweaker -t - Sordidman 19:09:14 07/23/15 (4)
- LOL indeed. Between putting down "tweakers" (daily),..... - carcass93 07:27:13 07/24/15 (3)
- THE ultimate music-milking machine nt - Tony Lauck 11:05:31 07/24/15 (1)
- Too bad about "music-milking" - but "faithful-milking machine" I'm OK with. - carcass93 15:31:37 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: LOL indeed. Between putting down "tweakers" (daily),..... - Sordidman 09:29:38 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: Are you trying to moderate the forum to only include your viewpoint ? - Bob_C 18:25:11 07/23/15 (0)
- Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sordidman 16:08:40 07/23/15 (19)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 18:07:49 07/23/15 (4)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Mercman 04:27:49 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 10:06:05 07/24/15 (0)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sordidman 19:00:32 07/23/15 (1)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sprezza Tura 19:15:41 07/23/15 (0)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sprezza Tura 16:12:07 07/23/15 (13)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 18:10:51 07/23/15 (12)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sprezza Tura 18:19:29 07/23/15 (11)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 18:27:45 07/23/15 (10)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sprezza Tura 18:29:57 07/23/15 (9)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 19:27:34 07/23/15 (8)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Mr_Steady 20:38:31 07/23/15 (1)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 21:59:55 07/23/15 (0)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sprezza Tura 19:38:08 07/23/15 (5)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 20:00:43 07/23/15 (4)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Sprezza Tura 20:06:54 07/23/15 (3)
- RE: Perhaps some audio shows, & friend's systems will help - Bob_C 21:20:27 07/23/15 (2)
- so, please, do us all a favor and go out and use those ears - Sordidman 06:12:15 07/24/15 (1)
- RE: so, please, do us all a favor and go out and use those ears - Bob_C 09:42:31 07/24/15 (0)