In Reply to: nobody is afraid of your ideas. posted by PakProtector on January 25, 2010 at 02:17:23:
You're assuming again. Funny thing-- the most often heard comment I get is that we have much better highs----, and it is true that we do.
So you assume a rolloff. OK- I'll grant you a rolloff, but you are stating it for vastly more than it actually is (I rate things VERY conservatively, so one should not get too nutty over my claims-- I expect at least those specs with bad tubes, and stressed conditions), and you're not showing any understanding of the natural rolloffs that occur both in human hearing, and in all components themselves.
All amplifiers have natural rolloffs in each direction of the human hearing range, unless they are specifically designed to produce "flat" frequency curves.
It is true that many solid state amps, and some tube models have been designed to get those "flat" curves. Too bad that they will not reproduce music accurately, but instead, sound unreal, synthetic, flat, not like hearing the live performance at all... I didn't say they can't sound impressive-- the question is how long can you listen to them?
I learned a long time ago that electronic parts are no different from engine parts, or parts to anything else.
If you let a part-- any part of a dynamic operating machine find its own pace, its own event timing, and its own operating levels and stresses, you will get natural rolloffs from those parts while they are operating.
When you change the operating levels (add stresses)-- such as demanding more RPM or torque from an engine, or facing an amplifier with a higher frequency, etc., I think I'm right to state that you want a natural rolloff to occur, which does not stress any part in the system.
The best performance that is attainable-- in both cases-- is that which allows the parts in question to perform in their ideal operating ranges, and to allow the parts to practice their natural, physical rolloff characteristics as demand on the system changes-- without any attempt being made to alter it.
In amplifiers, the better this is allowed to happen, and the less it is interfered with, the better it will reproduce music, and the more reliable the equipment will be, to boot!.
Now, I know that it is not fashionable to think in this way.
But it is..... very effective at reproducing music really well without equipment failure.
---Dennis---
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- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - tube wrangler 06:03:04 01/25/10 (17)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - PakProtector 08:49:58 01/25/10 (0)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - Tre' 08:30:40 01/25/10 (15)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - tube wrangler 13:34:27 01/25/10 (12)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - Tre' 15:24:53 01/25/10 (11)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - tube wrangler 17:18:17 01/25/10 (10)
- Agreed...... - drlowmu 07:29:25 01/26/10 (0)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - Tre' 17:29:22 01/25/10 (0)
- Here we go again....more nonsense talk - GEO 17:26:11 01/25/10 (7)
- RE: Here we go again....more nonsense talk - PakProtector 03:12:56 01/26/10 (6)
- That sums it up very well. (nt) - Tre' 20:27:51 01/26/10 (5)
- RE: That sums it up very well. (nt) - tube wrangler 00:39:51 01/27/10 (4)
- ?? - GEO 19:08:53 01/27/10 (0)
- RE: That sums it up very well. (nt) - Tre' 07:56:53 01/27/10 (1)
- RE: That sums it up very well. (nt) - tube wrangler 02:29:59 01/28/10 (0)
- More noise (nt) - GEO 06:55:03 01/27/10 (0)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - PakProtector 08:54:56 01/25/10 (1)
- RE: nobody is afraid of your ideas. - duffman 03:12:38 01/26/10 (0)