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In Reply to: part 2 will cover sw (here's some info) posted by cics on June 5, 2009 at 14:31:54:
I agree with you on the jitter because I have proven it to myself through a series of experiments, some with reclocker and some without. Some using Wi-Fi/networked playback and some using USB/Firewire and S/PDIF.
The thing is that comparisons like these should show ALL playback software sounding as good as it can when a reclocker is used. This is not always the case however, particularly with iTunes. Even after the jitter is minimized with a reclocker that totally isolates the computer clock, Amarra still makes an improvement.
This can only mean that something in addition to jitter is at work in this case. I'm not saying that Amarra does not reduce jitter, because I believe it does, however it sounds better than iTunes even with a reclocker used for both.
Steve N.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Jitter and music software - Mercman 12:58:34 06/02/09 (136)
- RE: Jitter and music software - jkeny 09:33:41 06/21/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Ugly 02:04:46 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - John Swenson 18:14:18 06/03/09 (41)
- RE: Jitter and music software - EmailTim 18:06:38 07/22/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Ishmael 05:27:08 06/05/09 (2)
- Semantics... - audioengr 10:42:42 06/05/09 (0)
- Excellent post. [nt] - alan m. kafton 09:53:55 06/05/09 (0)
- EMU 0404 Drivers? - rbakedq 02:56:19 06/05/09 (0)
- EMU 0404 - audioengr 18:31:00 06/04/09 (0)
- a little confusting to most. - Gordon Rankin 08:18:49 06/04/09 (2)
- RE: a little confusting to most. - soundchekk 03:20:49 06/05/09 (0)
- Not confusing to me(NT) - audioengr 18:31:59 06/04/09 (0)
- Jeez, John................... - Todd Krieger 22:46:59 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - fmak 21:35:53 06/03/09 (14)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - Dawnrazor 21:43:25 06/03/09 (13)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - fmak 03:40:08 06/04/09 (12)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - Dawnrazor 10:46:42 06/04/09 (9)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - audioengr 19:10:17 06/04/09 (6)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - Dawnrazor 21:55:00 06/04/09 (5)
- EMI/RFI - audioengr 10:47:14 06/05/09 (4)
- RE: EMI/RFI - Dawnrazor 11:24:11 06/05/09 (3)
- RE: EMI/RFI - audioengr 17:43:28 06/05/09 (1)
- Ask John Swenson he is the one who has heard them. - Dawnrazor 21:16:35 06/06/09 (0)
- RE: EMI/RFI - cfmsp 11:40:12 06/05/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - fmak 12:03:58 06/04/09 (1)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - Dawnrazor 22:01:01 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - aljordan 10:30:17 06/04/09 (1)
- RE: Jitter and music software-Programming? - fmak 12:02:41 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Tony Lauck 19:17:18 06/03/09 (0)
- In summary (without technical jargon like "jitter") - Christine Tham 18:37:12 06/03/09 (15)
- What about - audioengr 19:11:55 06/04/09 (1)
- RE: What about - Tony Lauck 11:27:20 06/05/09 (0)
- If you don't hear differences between different players, it could mean one of the following: - carcass93 08:33:13 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: In summary (without technical jargon like "jitter") - Todd Krieger 23:49:49 06/03/09 (1)
- RE: In summary (without technical jargon like "jitter") - Tony Lauck 07:31:31 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: In summary (without technical jargon like "jitter") - Old Listener 20:48:17 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: In summary (without technical jargon like "jitter") - Tony Lauck 19:19:38 06/03/09 (8)
- No, the opposite argument is something like this ... - Christine Tham 19:39:02 06/03/09 (7)
- RE: No, the opposite argument is something like this ... - Phelonious Ponk 20:16:12 06/03/09 (6)
- RE: No, the opposite argument is something like this ... - Tony Lauck 20:40:56 06/03/09 (5)
- RE: No, the opposite argument is something like this ... - Phelonious Ponk 05:24:18 06/04/09 (4)
- RE: No, the opposite argument is something like this ... - audioengr 19:16:24 06/04/09 (0)
- E pur si muove - Tony Lauck 06:31:44 06/04/09 (2)
- RE: E pur si muove - fmak 08:31:18 06/05/09 (0)
- RE: E pur si muove - Phelonious Ponk 15:34:01 06/04/09 (0)
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- part 2 will cover sw (here's some info) - cics 14:31:54 06/05/09 (1)
- RE: part 2 will cover sw (here's some info) - audioengr 18:01:51 06/05/09 (0)
- You guys are missing the point!!!!! it's not jitter - Gordon Rankin 07:06:48 06/03/09 (21)
- Agree - Scrith 15:56:09 06/03/09 (0)
- What Exactly Are You Referring To as "Not Jitter?" - Todd Krieger 15:33:08 06/03/09 (7)
- Gordon, we are all waiting... - audioengr 18:34:02 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: What Exactly Are You Referring To as "Not Jitter?" - fmak 21:39:56 06/03/09 (5)
- RE: What Exactly Are You Referring To as "Not Jitter?" - Todd Krieger 23:02:00 06/03/09 (4)
- RE: What Exactly Are You Referring To as "Not Jitter?" - fmak 03:50:05 06/04/09 (3)
- Not true - audioengr 18:40:09 06/04/09 (2)
- RE: Not true-How - fmak 22:09:01 06/04/09 (1)
- RE: Not true-How - audioengr 10:51:36 06/05/09 (0)
- RE: You guys are missing the point!!!!! it's not jitter - Squonk 10:20:53 06/03/09 (2)
- RE: You guys are missing the point!!!!! it's not jitter - fmak 21:40:41 06/03/09 (0)
- I thought that that was wobble? - Sordidman 11:06:32 06/03/09 (0)
- Jitter - and being on shakey ground. - Ryelands 08:47:06 06/03/09 (7)
- RE: Jitter - and being on shakey ground. - Tony Lauck 09:10:42 06/03/09 (6)
- RE: Jitter - and being on shakey ground. - Ryelands 13:27:15 06/03/09 (5)
- RE: Jitter - and being on shakey ground. - Tony Lauck 14:42:24 06/03/09 (4)
- Patience - audioengr 19:06:37 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter - and being on shakey ground. - Ryelands 05:05:15 06/04/09 (2)
- RE: Jitter - and being on shakey ground. - Tony Lauck 06:41:43 06/04/09 (1)
- RE: Jitter - and being on shakey ground. - Ryelands 07:10:28 06/04/09 (0)
- I agree. What do you think of the terminology I have been suggesting?nt - riboge 07:34:57 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 06:32:37 06/03/09 (6)
- RE: Jitter and music software - audioengr 19:29:14 06/04/09 (5)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 07:08:03 06/05/09 (4)
- RE: Jitter and music software - audioengr 10:54:33 06/05/09 (3)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 11:09:42 06/05/09 (2)
- RE: Jitter and music software - audioengr 17:51:41 06/05/09 (1)
- Thanks Steve - Mercman 18:07:47 06/05/09 (0)
- Datastream jitter - audioengr 22:04:23 06/02/09 (12)
- RE: Datastream jitter - Todd Krieger 16:16:26 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: Datastream jitter - Tony Lauck 09:03:19 06/03/09 (1)
- RE: Datastream jitter - audioengr 18:44:26 06/04/09 (0)
- Steve no it's not! Why fix jitter? - Gordon Rankin 07:01:20 06/03/09 (8)
- Then, why - audioengr 18:45:57 06/04/09 (0)
- Failure to Define the Clock Does Not Mean It Won't Produce Jitter - Todd Krieger 16:27:39 06/03/09 (4)
- Not true - Gordon Rankin 08:25:34 06/04/09 (3)
- What kind - audioengr 18:51:05 06/04/09 (2)
- RE: What kind - Mercman 06:26:46 06/05/09 (1)
- That's a stretch - audioengr 10:58:33 06/05/09 (0)
- RE: Steve no it's not! Why fix jitter? - cfmsp 08:43:21 06/03/09 (1)
- yes - Gordon Rankin 08:26:36 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - fmak 21:45:39 06/02/09 (0)
- Computer Audiophile = Garbage - Scrith 14:44:44 06/02/09 (0)
- substantive terminological issue - riboge 14:27:10 06/02/09 (14)
- RE: substantive terminological issue - Mercman 17:16:36 06/02/09 (13)
- RE: substantive terminological issue - audioengr 21:42:46 06/02/09 (1)
- RE: substantive terminological issue - riboge 06:59:58 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: substantive terminological issue - riboge 17:33:41 06/02/09 (8)
- RE: substantive terminological issue - Mercman 18:02:09 06/02/09 (7)
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- RE: So what about... - John Swenson 16:02:59 06/03/09 (5)
- I get that but.... - Andyman 16:37:14 06/03/09 (4)
- RE: I get that but.... - John Swenson 14:06:23 06/04/09 (3)
- RE: I get that but.... - audioengr 18:56:14 06/04/09 (2)
- RE: I get that but.... - Andyman 02:19:56 06/05/09 (1)
- RE: I get that but.... - audioengr 11:01:47 06/05/09 (0)
- RE: substantive terminological issue - cfmsp 17:21:37 06/02/09 (1)
- RE: substantive terminological issue - Mercman 17:36:15 06/02/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - soundchekk 14:22:53 06/02/09 (20)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Spiritualized 17:58:38 06/02/09 (12)
- I agree! NT - M 16:30:43 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - soundchekk 00:18:32 06/03/09 (3)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Spiritualized 00:45:44 06/03/09 (2)
- RE: Jitter and music software - soundchekk 02:29:48 06/03/09 (1)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Spiritualized 09:53:22 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Phelonious Ponk 21:00:43 06/02/09 (6)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Dawnrazor 22:54:21 06/02/09 (3)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Phelonious Ponk 06:06:53 06/03/09 (2)
- Now I am confused!!! - Andyman 07:48:16 06/03/09 (1)
- RE: Now I am confused!!! - Dawnrazor 07:56:07 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Spiritualized 22:11:30 06/02/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - J.Mac 21:50:53 06/02/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 14:30:49 06/02/09 (6)
- RE: Jitter and music software - soundchekk 23:09:40 06/02/09 (5)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 06:58:31 06/03/09 (4)
- RE: Jitter and music software - soundchekk 07:50:24 06/03/09 (3)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 08:04:19 06/03/09 (2)
- RE: Jitter and music software - soundchekk 11:06:01 06/03/09 (1)
- Understood! (nt) - Mercman 11:40:02 06/03/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Todd Krieger 13:46:38 06/02/09 (8)
- From one Engineer to another - audioengr 21:45:06 06/02/09 (4)
- RE: From one Engineer to another - fmak 00:52:03 06/03/09 (1)
- RE: From one Engineer to another - audioengr 19:01:02 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: From one Engineer to another - Todd Krieger 23:10:10 06/02/09 (1)
- Pride of ownership - audioengr 18:59:36 06/04/09 (0)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 13:59:00 06/02/09 (2)
- RE: Jitter and music software - fmak 21:46:41 06/03/09 (1)
- RE: Jitter and music software - Mercman 06:29:45 06/05/09 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: part 2 will cover sw (here's some info) - audioengr 18:01:51 06/05/09 (0)