In Reply to: RE: It's not relevant posted by Jaundiced Ear on July 23, 2013 at 12:10:03:
The output streams of those players may be identical if they are considered as bits, e.g. if they are transcribed as a pattern of 0's and 1's to a memory buffer. However, if the output stream is examined as a continuous electrical waveform, there may be differences. You won't see these differences by looking at the memory buffer in the DAC, but you may be able to see them by looking at the waveform on the cable using a high resolution storage scope. The tools used in the article were looking at the pattern of bits, not at their physical representation. However, a DAC doesn't work with abstract bits. It works with a physical representation, and depending on its design and construction this physical representation may have a significant effect on the DAC's output.
Here's an example of two bit streams that contain identical "bits".
01101101101
01101101101
As you can see, there are identical sequences of digits, but their physical representations on your computer screen are not identical.
As to nothing changing, something always changes. No two objects or events in this universe are ever identical, but even if they were, our perception of these events would differ, if only because of our differing mental states.
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- RE: It's not relevant - Tony Lauck 12:56:39 07/23/13 (46)
- RE: It's not relevant (but your post is!) - rick_m 19:24:58 07/23/13 (0)
- RE: It's not relevant - Jaundiced Ear 15:09:56 07/23/13 (44)
- RE: It's not relevant - John Swenson 13:32:09 07/24/13 (41)
- great post John! - Gordon Rankin 06:23:11 07/25/13 (0)
- Thanks for the response! - Jaundiced Ear 21:20:09 07/24/13 (31)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - John Swenson 13:57:51 07/25/13 (28)
- Very true but? - Gordon Rankin 06:01:56 07/26/13 (1)
- RE: Very true but? - Tony Lauck 07:46:04 07/26/13 (0)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - cmiu 23:57:03 07/25/13 (0)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Jaundiced Ear 15:02:27 07/25/13 (24)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Mercman 15:50:01 07/25/13 (23)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Jaundiced Ear 17:11:46 07/25/13 (22)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Tony Lauck 18:06:51 07/25/13 (17)
- I'm still not sure I understand - Jaundiced Ear 19:59:26 07/25/13 (16)
- RE: I'm still not sure I understand - John Swenson 15:49:44 07/26/13 (4)
- VERY well said! - Ivan303 09:37:07 07/31/13 (0)
- Ah ha! Yes, this makes sense! - Jaundiced Ear 16:32:26 07/26/13 (2)
- RE: Ah ha! Yes, this makes sense! - jkeny 17:08:05 07/26/13 (1)
- RE: Ah ha! Yes, this makes sense! - Jaundiced Ear 16:53:34 07/27/13 (0)
- RE: I'm still not sure I understand - Tony Lauck 20:33:30 07/25/13 (10)
- OK, now I'm really confused. - Jaundiced Ear 22:54:53 07/25/13 (9)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - rick_m 08:30:21 07/26/13 (5)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - jkeny 10:50:49 07/26/13 (4)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - rick_m 13:59:06 07/26/13 (1)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - jkeny 15:17:50 07/26/13 (0)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - Say 12:11:17 07/26/13 (1)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - jkeny 12:34:58 07/26/13 (0)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - Tony Lauck 06:47:31 07/26/13 (0)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - Mercman 03:24:18 07/26/13 (1)
- RE: OK, now I'm really confused. - Jaundiced Ear 04:14:16 07/26/13 (0)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Mercman 17:17:34 07/25/13 (3)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Bob_C 19:44:55 07/25/13 (2)
- I know I'm not as nice as you are, Bob_C - Jaundiced Ear 20:45:12 07/25/13 (1)
- RE: I know I'm not as nice as you are, Bob_C - Bob_C 21:35:08 07/25/13 (0)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Bob_C 11:53:31 07/25/13 (1)
- RE: Thanks for the response! - Jaundiced Ear 14:39:22 07/25/13 (0)
- RE: It's not relevant - SBGK 17:39:43 07/24/13 (2)
- RE: It's not relevant - Tony Lauck 18:04:11 07/24/13 (1)
- RE: It's not relevant - SBGK 08:20:17 07/30/13 (0)
- Brilliant post, John! - Charles Hansen 17:25:24 07/24/13 (4)
- RE: Brilliant post, John! - Bob_C 11:04:43 07/25/13 (3)
- Hey! Cut me some slack! - Jaundiced Ear 15:25:51 07/25/13 (0)
- RE: Brilliant post, John! - Say 12:02:59 07/25/13 (1)
- RE: Brilliant post, John! - Bob_C 12:24:13 07/25/13 (0)
- RE: It's not relevant - Ryelands 04:24:41 07/24/13 (1)
- Thanks for your kind reply! N.T. - Jaundiced Ear 12:13:18 07/24/13 (0)