It may come as a shock to some vinylphiles ... - Stephen

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Topic - SACD II to be Announced in September - thenexte 21:01:34 07/20/03 (198)

As long as I can continue listening to DSD music with no audible encryption, I don't care. - Striving for Musical Clarity 12:11:11 07/23/03 (0)

Re: SACD II to be Announced in September - Eric Nelson 07:03:25 07/23/03 (0)

The insert included with all hybrid discs has always mentioned video capability. - Edward 08:00:59 07/22/03 (1)

Re: The insert included with all hybrid discs has always mentioned video capability. - Frank. 11:42:15 07/22/03 (0)

Since the new SACD is no more SACD than DVD-A; SACD is now officially dead. - Duilawyer 18:50:03 07/21/03 (11)

Rich is back again. nt - patrickU 22:29:15 07/21/03 (0)

As a judge and a lawyer......... - Chris Garrett 20:16:18 07/21/03 (9)

part-time volunteer judge. And the facts I read, justify - Duilawyer 20:37:36 07/21/03 (8)

The glass is half full............... - Chris Garrett 06:13:51 07/22/03 (7)

SACDOA - Duilawyer 06:35:08 07/22/03 (6)

melodramatic - tunenut 09:27:47 07/22/03 (0)

And those are facts? - Chris Garrett 07:36:13 07/22/03 (0)

Re: SACDOA - rebop 07:16:17 07/22/03 (2)

sacd isn't Sony alone. - Frank. 07:37:54 07/22/03 (1)

I am fully aware of that... - rebop 07:40:40 07/22/03 (0)

Time for a re-fill... - Frank. 07:02:00 07/22/03 (0)

Does it mention a better spec such as even higher sampling rate ? - akltam 18:11:54 07/21/03 (1)

Funny that no one here seems to bother about audio - Eric LeRouge 10:44:42 07/22/03 (0)

Squawk, Squawk, Squawk - rebop 11:46:24 07/21/03 (0)

SACD II (this time they mean business - and lots of it please!) nt - jusbe 11:41:47 07/21/03 (0)

<Yawn> (nt) - Jim Treanor 09:49:16 07/21/03 (0)

I just bought a universal that is no longer universal - WilHenry 09:25:34 07/21/03 (0)

Re: SACD II to be Announced in September - Don D. 09:23:51 07/21/03 (0)

natural progression ... - TBone 08:20:17 07/21/03 (0)

Vinyl is embarrisingly so much better - Bob Track 07:22:43 07/21/03 (130)

Well...i think you need to put this a in bit of perspective. - Penguin 12:45:29 07/22/03 (1)

Good point............ - mes 04:54:58 07/23/03 (0)

"I have done some evaluating and SACD... - John 05:13:09 07/22/03 (2)

Re: "I have done some evaluating and SACD... - Bob Track 05:15:59 07/22/03 (1)

Re: "I have done some evaluating and SACD... - John 05:00:21 07/24/03 (0)

Vinyl, vinyl, vinyl, yap, yap, yap, ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... - loki biagi 23:13:41 07/21/03 (0)

Why are you vinyl folks spending so much time on the SACD enthusiast's forum. Please go to the vinyl forum where you - Striving for Musical Clarity 16:03:18 07/21/03 (27)

Vinylphiles can be extremely militant, no? - Herbal Vivid 03:26:07 07/22/03 (1)

Yes, I'd say you were rather viciously mugged in the Vinyl forum... - racerguy 04:31:36 07/22/03 (0)

You're fighting a losing battle. - Joe Murphy Jr 23:10:32 07/21/03 (0)

again, these issues are always of interest to me... - tunenut 18:42:59 07/21/03 (2)

I agree with you - John 05:41:41 07/22/03 (0)

Yes ... - Striving for Musical Clarity 19:25:08 07/21/03 (0)

Excuse me... - Bob Track 18:28:02 07/21/03 (15)

Just visited your vinyl forum. It's a very nice forum. Didn't see any bitching about its perceived negatives. - Striving for Musical Clarity 19:14:08 07/21/03 (14)

Go back to vinyl asylum, do a search for... - rebop 06:39:05 07/22/03 (0)

Re: Just visited your vinyl forum. It's a very nice forum. Didn't see any bitching about its perceived negatives. - Bob Track 19:59:54 07/21/03 (12)

Re: Just visited your vinyl forum. It's a very nice forum. Didn't see any bitching about its perceived negatives. - racerguy 20:47:16 07/21/03 (11)

Re: Just visited your vinyl forum. It's a very nice forum. Didn't see any bitching about its perceived negatives. - beefstu 13:01:50 07/22/03 (10)

Oh look - another Vinyl Troll - what a surprise! :-) - racerguy 13:47:40 07/22/03 (9)

That wasn't a troll..(long)... - rebop 06:59:08 07/23/03 (8)

You must have a lot of time to waste... - racerguy 11:14:23 07/23/03 (6)

Look, I'm not a true believer in anything... - rebop 20:52:42 07/23/03 (5)

Re: Look, I'm not a true believer in anything... - racerguy 08:20:53 07/24/03 (4)

Geez, now my head is about to explode... - tunenut 10:15:04 07/24/03 (2)

We have agreed to disagree over... - rebop 11:45:35 07/24/03 (1)

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. :-) nt - Methos 14:24:43 07/24/03 (0)

Looks like... - rebop 09:50:59 07/24/03 (0)

Well said <nt> - ramossp 07:31:42 07/23/03 (0)

Hey Mister Bossy Pants... - rebop 18:24:24 07/21/03 (2)

You're not stripped of your rights to discuss SACD. Please, be my guest, discuss SACD. - Striving for Musical Clarity 19:38:46 07/21/03 (1)

Re: You're not stripped of your rights to discuss SACD. Please, be my guest, discuss SACD. - rebop 06:18:25 07/22/03 (0)

Right on! (nt) - racerguy 16:48:35 07/21/03 (1)

Ditto! nt - Methos 17:40:41 07/21/03 (0)

Gads!! I see you like tubes too - Feanor 14:53:01 07/21/03 (2)

whatever you do, stay away from planar speakers.. - tunenut 09:30:34 07/22/03 (1)

Well, I did make one audiophile concession - Feanor 12:31:25 07/22/03 (0)

Ever wonder ... - Stephen 14:08:38 07/21/03 (33)

Re: Ever wonder ... - illini_skn 13:36:50 07/22/03 (0)

Ever wonder ... - rebop 07:33:08 07/22/03 (0)

Because... - ramossp 14:25:29 07/21/03 (30)

It may come as a shock to some vinylphiles ... - Stephen 14:51:27 07/21/03 (29)

You don't have to justify your descision ... - rebop 07:38:25 07/22/03 (1)

exactly ... - TBone 08:27:48 07/22/03 (0)

You're certainly welcome to your opinion... - ramossp 06:40:03 07/22/03 (5)

Not threatened, more sick of the whole issue - Stephen 07:31:40 07/22/03 (4)

thats silly .. - TBone 11:00:08 07/22/03 (2)

You still don't get it - Stephen 17:13:33 07/22/03 (1)

lets review ... - TBone 08:57:25 07/23/03 (0)

Fair enough - ramossp 07:58:23 07/22/03 (0)

performance comparisons are always of interest - tunenut 15:57:49 07/21/03 (3)

Well yes ... - Stephen 16:25:54 07/21/03 (2)

that is because... - tunenut 17:42:27 07/21/03 (1)

Yes, but ... - Stephen 17:59:44 07/21/03 (0)

Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - Feanor 15:20:46 07/21/03 (11)

your clued ... - TBone 08:17:33 07/22/03 (3)

Well sadly ... - Feanor 09:30:41 07/22/03 (2)

Re: Well sadly ... - TBone 12:19:16 07/22/03 (1)

I grant that point - Feanor 12:39:36 07/22/03 (0)

Re: Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - racerguy 16:46:11 07/21/03 (3)

Re: Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - Feanor 09:45:09 07/22/03 (2)

Careful there, Elf-man. You're starting to sound like a Digital True Believer! (nt) - racerguy 14:48:27 07/22/03 (1)

Gosh! I'm not even religous - Feanor 09:09:55 07/23/03 (0)

Re: Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - tbrim 16:42:31 07/21/03 (2)

not cultish at all...drink the Koolaid...listen to vinyl...Father waits in heaven for us... (NT) - tunenut 17:54:57 07/21/03 (1)

Finally, we get to see you put the "nut" in the "tune". <nt> - JBA 18:21:42 07/21/03 (0)

Surprising To See Recent Surge In Vinyl - Robertc88 15:04:51 07/21/03 (4)

Blip more like - Stephen 15:14:22 07/21/03 (3)

More then a blip it seems. - ratskrad 18:16:51 07/21/03 (2)

Read this ... - Stephen 18:26:27 07/21/03 (1)

Re: Read this ... - Frank. 00:13:49 07/22/03 (0)

*Scritch* *Click* *Pop* Would you repeat that? I have an LP Playing. *Scritch* *Click* *Pop* - racerguy 13:32:31 07/21/03 (30)

Hey I have no *Scritch* *Click* *Pop* as I don't buy scratched LPs. On Mint Quality LPs there is slight surface noise - Teresa 23:25:42 07/21/03 (1)

Re: Hey I have no *Scritch* *Click* *Pop* as I don't buy scratched LPs. On Mint Quality LPs there is slight surface no - racerguy 04:40:08 07/22/03 (0)

thats funny .... - TBone 13:59:47 07/21/03 (27)

Nice try... - racerguy 16:29:30 07/21/03 (26)

Wrong Again ... - TBone 07:52:56 07/22/03 (25)

Again with the personal attacks - is that all you can come up with? - racerguy 14:30:37 07/22/03 (2)

Re: Again with the personal attacks - is that all you can come up with? - TBone 14:50:10 07/22/03 (1)

Apparently personal attacks ARE all you can come up with - racerguy 15:08:06 07/22/03 (0)

Because.... - Frank. 09:51:30 07/22/03 (21)

the old digital dynamic range debate .... - TBone 10:45:58 07/22/03 (20)

I have to side with Frank here, you're dealing with subjective issues, not the actual def. of dynamic range. nt - Methos 11:54:22 07/22/03 (5)

at this point you should be seriously questioning yourself... - tunenut 12:47:59 07/22/03 (4)

Well, even DVD-A folks can be right, occasionally. :-) - Methos 13:09:00 07/22/03 (3)

OK now you are officially out... - tunenut 15:38:43 07/22/03 (1)

Oh, OK I take it back then...don't want to lose my SACD card, chicks dig that! nt - Methos 10:03:15 07/23/03 (0)

Now you're credibility is compromized, :) - Frank. 13:11:43 07/22/03 (0)

Not a debate .... - Frank. 11:14:31 07/22/03 (13)

Re: Not a debate .... - TBone 12:40:55 07/22/03 (12)

Re: Not a debate .... - Frank. 13:05:34 07/22/03 (11)

this is silly ... - TBone 13:23:47 07/22/03 (10)

Re: this is silly ... - Frank. 13:50:50 07/22/03 (9)

hmmmm .... - TBone 14:41:26 07/22/03 (8)

Indeed... - Frank. 00:12:16 07/23/03 (5)

Re: Indeed... - TBone 07:42:23 07/23/03 (4)

Wrong again - Frank. 10:32:53 07/23/03 (3)

yes ... indeed you are ... - TBone 13:07:01 07/23/03 (2)

Re: yes ... indeed you are ... - Frank. 13:19:59 07/23/03 (1)

Re: yes ... indeed you are ... - TBone 07:10:51 07/24/03 (0)

you are lucky... - tunenut 16:01:14 07/22/03 (1)

well ... - TBone 08:37:24 07/23/03 (0)

Re: Vinyl is embarrisingly so much better - tbrim 12:12:51 07/21/03 (1)

and embarrisingly inconvenient to use (nt) - MM 13:03:57 07/21/03 (0)

What a load of baloney! - Feanor 11:25:30 07/21/03 (4)

What Setup? Haven't Adjusted My TT Since I Purchased It! - Robertc88 14:51:32 07/21/03 (0)

Re: What a load of baloney! - Bob Track 11:30:22 07/21/03 (2)

do maneaters prefer salad or balony ... - TBone 13:17:23 07/21/03 (1)

And which SACD player do you own? (nt) - racerguy 13:35:16 07/21/03 (0)

Who cares, vinyl is DEAD! - sdiver68 09:10:21 07/21/03 (10)

SACD Is Even Less Than Of A Market - Robertc88 14:57:38 07/21/03 (0)

If I am willing to pay which I did... - panorama 12:57:59 07/21/03 (0)

Who cares? Those of us who like music. - jjqiv 10:14:37 07/21/03 (3)

Liking music has nothing to do with it... - david hull 12:13:16 07/21/03 (1)

Re: Liking music has nothing to do with it... - jjqiv 19:53:57 07/22/03 (0)

Attack of the Vinyl Snobs - racerguy 11:37:54 07/21/03 (0)

I'm not happy... - Bob Track 10:07:43 07/21/03 (0)

But it outsells SACD over 3 to 1 - Jason White 10:01:15 07/21/03 (2)

Talk digital v analog, not SACD v vinyl - sdiver68 12:48:41 07/21/03 (0)

Birth - Growth - Mature - Decay - Death - sdiver68 12:47:40 07/21/03 (1)

Amazing - Metralla 08:08:42 07/21/03 (9)

Re: Amazing - Bob Track 08:55:05 07/21/03 (8)

"On my SACD's it is a Philips 1000 or a Sony 9000 maybe that's why I hear a difference..." - Methos 15:19:47 07/21/03 (0)

My Audio Note is still better than any SACD I have . . . - John PA 09:15:04 07/21/03 (6)

"A very modified Sony"? - Methos 15:06:38 07/21/03 (5)

We are talking a lot of money... - rebop 07:52:40 07/22/03 (3)

I spent 3.6k total for a player equal to the one I described... - Methos 10:08:46 07/22/03 (2)

So when do I get the check? - rebop 12:19:32 07/22/03 (1)

It's in the mail, dude... - Methos 10:11:44 07/23/03 (0)

I had someone over the other night . . - John PA 15:30:30 07/21/03 (0)

Well, I'm off the fence. Vinyl for me! - Tromatic 07:02:52 07/21/03 (0)

I find it hysterically funny... - racerguy 06:35:26 07/21/03 (4)

Re: I find it hysterically funny... - NotMe 09:23:47 07/21/03 (3)

Re: I find it hysterically funny... - racerguy 10:19:17 07/21/03 (2)

Re: I find it hysterically funny... - NotMe 11:05:22 07/21/03 (1)

Re: I find it hysterically funny... - racerguy 11:17:57 07/21/03 (0)

Enhancements - bdlab 06:07:35 07/21/03 (0)

Now this is interesting. Come on SACD diehards, put a positive spin on it! - 9fold 04:35:24 07/21/03 (1)

The new discs won't add any value, from my viewpoint at least... - Methos 09:37:22 07/21/03 (0)

Looks like we shouldn't "swet" that much...... - Alex Peychev 01:15:09 07/21/03 (1)

Re: Looks like we shouldn't "swet" that much...... - paulcordingley 02:13:47 07/21/03 (0)

Teresa is a smart cookie - Eric LeRouge 23:16:21 07/20/03 (8)

Sorry Eric, you made the point. I did not see yours when I posted, above. - Duilawyer 19:06:23 07/21/03 (0)

sssh! Nobody's bought the SACD player yet, but all the software is sold (nt) - Teresa 03:57:07 07/21/03 (1)

Let me know when you sell your Intel and IBM stock (nt :) - Eric LeRouge 08:13:57 07/21/03 (0)

Playing time for audio will be severely curtailed. - Frank 23:44:20 07/20/03 (4)

Re: Playing time for audio will be severely curtailed. - Eric LeRouge 08:48:56 07/21/03 (3)

No connection. - Frank 10:19:07 07/21/03 (0)

Re: Dates - NotMe 09:16:17 07/21/03 (1)

Re: Dates - Eric LeRouge 11:03:22 07/21/03 (0)

They've got to be kidding me - Jon L 21:49:28 07/20/03 (8)

Will the SACD 1 discs play in SACD II machines? - Frank 23:51:19 07/20/03 (7)

It will all be totally incompatible - tunenut 10:07:01 07/21/03 (6)

Ok, my mistake - Frank 10:26:15 07/21/03 (5)

well let's just see how it all develops - tunenut 10:42:18 07/21/03 (4)

Good lord. My Philips 963 has just been dispatched to me ... - Dave Farrell 12:15:38 07/21/03 (2)

Re: I plan to use SACD in my audio-only system... - RANDU 16:51:15 07/22/03 (1)

So I gather. I'm using an Onkyo DVs535, which is very good on pictures and sound (not very appealing on CD - Dave Farrell 12:11:05 07/23/03 (0)

Re: well let's just see how it all develops - swanlee 11:44:47 07/21/03 (0)

"send shivers down your spine" ... why? - Stephen 21:48:44 07/20/03 (0)

More uncertainty in an already - paulcordingley 21:24:39 07/20/03 (2)

Oh, I'm fairly certain. . . - Jazz Inmate 22:00:21 07/20/03 (0)

Good point and 2007 if all goes lickety split..............nt - Chris Garrett 21:28:35 07/20/03 (0)

Not my cup of tea, but I can't say that I'm surprised over the video content aspect.... - Chris Garrett 21:24:23 07/20/03 (3)

What if they delete the stereo content to make - sgb 10:40:30 07/21/03 (2)

Then I'm out............ - Chris Garrett 12:01:48 07/21/03 (0)

Droppping cd layer is far more likely. <nt> - Frank 10:48:53 07/21/03 (0)

Serious problems for SACD : SACD II, technology controlled by DVD Forum, and DVD-A hybrids. The original SACD format ... - ZS KEKL 21:21:10 07/20/03 (5)

"enjoyed reading the HighFidelityReview.com article"- look up their Pet sounds review... - tunenut 09:37:23 07/21/03 (4)

I enjoyed listening to the Pet Sounds DVD-A , the alternate mixes , and watching the Pet Sounds Sessions documentary. .. - ZS KEKL 10:39:23 07/21/03 (3)

Have you enjoyed the 4 or 5 relaunches of DVD-Audio?? :-) - Methos 17:06:38 07/21/03 (2)

Hey, at least they were of the exact same format each time :-) (nt) - paulcordingley 00:18:41 07/22/03 (1)

DVD-A is adding flipper discs; SACD is adding more video content...sounds like a wash, to me. :-) nt - Methos 09:56:43 07/22/03 (0)

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It may come as a shock to some vinylphiles ... - Stephen 14:51:27 07/21/03 (29)

You don't have to justify your descision ... - rebop 07:38:25 07/22/03 (1)

exactly ... - TBone 08:27:48 07/22/03 (0)

You're certainly welcome to your opinion... - ramossp 06:40:03 07/22/03 (5)

Not threatened, more sick of the whole issue - Stephen 07:31:40 07/22/03 (4)

thats silly .. - TBone 11:00:08 07/22/03 (2)

You still don't get it - Stephen 17:13:33 07/22/03 (1)

lets review ... - TBone 08:57:25 07/23/03 (0)

Fair enough - ramossp 07:58:23 07/22/03 (0)

performance comparisons are always of interest - tunenut 15:57:49 07/21/03 (3)

Well yes ... - Stephen 16:25:54 07/21/03 (2)

that is because... - tunenut 17:42:27 07/21/03 (1)

Yes, but ... - Stephen 17:59:44 07/21/03 (0)

Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - Feanor 15:20:46 07/21/03 (11)

your clued ... - TBone 08:17:33 07/22/03 (3)

Well sadly ... - Feanor 09:30:41 07/22/03 (2)

Re: Well sadly ... - TBone 12:19:16 07/22/03 (1)

I grant that point - Feanor 12:39:36 07/22/03 (0)

Re: Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - racerguy 16:46:11 07/21/03 (3)

Re: Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - Feanor 09:45:09 07/22/03 (2)

Careful there, Elf-man. You're starting to sound like a Digital True Believer! (nt) - racerguy 14:48:27 07/22/03 (1)

Gosh! I'm not even religous - Feanor 09:09:55 07/23/03 (0)

Re: Here! Here! And I didn't have to wait for SACD to dump vinyl - tbrim 16:42:31 07/21/03 (2)

not cultish at all...drink the Koolaid...listen to vinyl...Father waits in heaven for us... (NT) - tunenut 17:54:57 07/21/03 (1)

Finally, we get to see you put the "nut" in the "tune". <nt> - JBA 18:21:42 07/21/03 (0)

Surprising To See Recent Surge In Vinyl - Robertc88 15:04:51 07/21/03 (4)

Blip more like - Stephen 15:14:22 07/21/03 (3)

More then a blip it seems. - ratskrad 18:16:51 07/21/03 (2)

Read this ... - Stephen 18:26:27 07/21/03 (1)

Re: Read this ... - Frank. 00:13:49 07/22/03 (0)