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Topic - OMG..... It is believed Warner dropping PCM entirely for DTS/DD {nt} - sammy 07:56:57 01/27/03 (114)

• That isn't going to happen - PCM is the MAIN part of the DVD-A spec. (nt)` - Maven 15:31:05 01/27/03 (0)
• No they can't do 192/24 DTS - but... - Michi 10:58:38 01/27/03 (101)
• The same place you get your information, Michelle. - Jim Pearce 21:26:55 01/27/03 (75)
• Grow up. - Michi 00:50:42 01/28/03 (74)
• When you do grow up, you'll know a baseless rumour... - Jim Pearce 07:22:01 01/28/03 (73)
• Verance being audible is a baseless rumor? - Michi 11:16:58 01/28/03 (72)
• Useless to go on on the watermark issue - Frank 12:02:45 01/28/03 (37)
• There are no artifacts. That is marketing rubbish and UNPROVEN {nt} - SnaggS 00:34:08 01/29/03 (36)
• I have heard them - Frank 01:39:06 01/29/03 (35)
• Ok... - Methos 10:10:36 01/29/03 (34)
• Re: Ok... - Frank 10:59:25 01/29/03 (33)
• CHSAM223 BUCKY PIZZARELLI/SWING LIVE M-CH/2-CH SACD... - Methos 11:14:45 01/29/03 (2)
• Re: CHSAM223 BUCKY PIZZARELLI/SWING LIVE M-CH/2-CH SACD... - Frank 11:25:13 01/29/03 (1)
• Specific discs? Sonys or Telarcs preferred...I have only the Chesky sampler and Carla Lother... - Methos 11:28:07 01/29/03 (0)
• Very well...I shall purchase this one, and investigate. BTW, how do you know you are hearing DSD... - Methos 11:05:57 01/29/03 (29)
• Frank, I am also curious about your answer to this one... - Eric LeRouge 12:32:41 01/29/03 (28)
• DSD's limited ability to handle HF percussion is clearly audible. - Jim Pearce 12:47:07 01/29/03 (21)
• It doesn't seem to be audible whatsoever, except to a very small number of DVD-A adherents... - Methos 13:23:06 01/29/03 (4)
• 'reputable magazine ' ? - Frank 13:34:36 01/29/03 (3)
• No, they're always recognised in the tech measurements section. In fact, much ink is often spilled.. - Methos 13:45:32 01/29/03 (2)
• Re: No, they're always recognised in the tech measurements section. In fact, much ink is often spill - Frank 13:54:38 01/29/03 (1)
• Do I maintain that SET amps are always more musical than push-pull SS designs? No... - Methos 15:14:50 01/29/03 (0)
• "I can name at least three discs off the top of my head." Please do, with at least the track if not - Methos 13:00:13 01/29/03 (15)
• Methos, try this one... - Jim Pearce 13:34:03 01/29/03 (14)
• can you provide another example? - Christine Tham 22:24:38 01/29/03 (7)
• Re: can you provide another example? - Jim Pearce 06:44:45 01/30/03 (6)
• Re: can you provide another example? - Christine Tham 11:42:04 01/30/03 (5)
• Re: can you provide another example? - Jim Pearce 12:01:59 01/30/03 (4)
• no you recall incorrectly - Christine Tham 14:24:10 01/30/03 (3)
• My normal listening level is 70dB, not 80 dB. - Jim Pearce 20:24:14 01/30/03 (2)
• no - i have never stated what my "normal" listening level is - Christine Tham 21:34:43 01/30/03 (1)
• I listen to too much vinyl. - Jim Pearce 22:24:43 01/30/03 (0)
• "more clearer" ... need "more education" ? {nt} - SnaggS 16:08:06 01/29/03 (1)
• A slip of the digit. You can't spell cat.nt - Jim Pearce 20:45:07 01/29/03 (0)
• Excellent, I have that one. - Methos 13:49:42 01/29/03 (3)
• This is getting interesting (nt) - Eric LeRouge 14:03:29 01/29/03 (2)
• don't get your hopes up... - tunenut 22:01:09 01/29/03 (1)
• Agreed. - Jim Pearce 07:09:29 01/30/03 (0)
• Re: Frank, I am also curious about your answer to this one... - Frank 12:46:09 01/29/03 (5)
• Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Eric LeRouge 14:28:31 01/29/03 (4)
• Re: Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Zoltan 06:55:48 01/30/03 (1)
• Interesting - Eric LeRouge 04:04:07 01/31/03 (0)
• Re: Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Frank 06:04:18 01/30/03 (1)
• Thanks, I'll try them - Eric LeRouge 03:55:01 01/31/03 (0)
• I mean Warner dropping PCM. - Jim Pearce 11:36:45 01/28/03 (33)
• Well, OK. I definitely do listen to DVD-A's though. heh. - Michi 17:33:14 01/28/03 (0)
• question - Joe Murphy Jr 11:49:11 01/28/03 (31)
• In the artist's interest no, but with labels such as Warner, the artist doesn't own or control it. - Michi 17:34:25 01/28/03 (3)
• Why not ? - Frank 01:37:35 01/29/03 (2)
• I know. That's what I used to encode Verance for. - Michi 05:25:04 01/31/03 (1)
• Re: I know. That's what I used to encode Verance for. - Frank 06:20:00 01/31/03 (0)
• Re: question - Frank 12:07:42 01/28/03 (26)
• It was a "yes" or "no" question - Joe Murphy Jr 16:01:19 01/28/03 (25)
• Yes - Frank 09:11:27 01/29/03 (13)
• Thank you for your honest answer. - Joe Murphy Jr 11:15:45 01/29/03 (1)
• Re: Thank you for your honest answer. - Frank 12:12:11 01/29/03 (0)
• they won't - tunenut 10:05:06 01/29/03 (10)
• Not yet. - Frank 11:18:55 01/29/03 (9)
• you are right but... - tunenut 11:27:10 01/29/03 (8)
• Tunenut, don't be too quick to generalize. - Jim Pearce 11:39:50 01/29/03 (7)
• just for fun... - tunenut 22:48:05 01/29/03 (2)
• Re: just for fun... - Frank 07:28:12 01/31/03 (1)
• this is just for fun... - tunenut 09:29:41 01/31/03 (0)
• steganography is here to stay... - tunenut 13:12:47 01/29/03 (3)
• Re: steganography is here to stay... - Frank 13:46:00 01/29/03 (1)
• I have a guitar... - tunenut 13:55:42 01/29/03 (0)
• Well stated. nt - Methos 13:25:11 01/29/03 (0)
• Artists sign their paintings. - Jim Pearce 21:42:29 01/28/03 (10)
• A watermark is NOT an artist's signature. - Joe Murphy Jr 11:36:07 01/29/03 (2)
• As a photographer, its easy. - Jim Pearce 12:16:30 01/29/03 (1)
• Then I speak to you as BOTH -- - Joe Murphy Jr 17:31:53 01/29/03 (0)
• a spurious comparison - tunenut 10:11:03 01/29/03 (6)
• I agree with your post above: it will disappear. - Jim Pearce 10:44:02 01/29/03 (5)
• no I can't... - tunenut 11:13:20 01/29/03 (4)
• Chicken egg or egg chicken problem - Frank 12:19:27 01/29/03 (3)
• the egg of course!!! (NT) - tunenut 12:59:17 01/29/03 (2)
• Marilyn vos Savant had a well-reasoned answer to that question in her column.. - Methos 14:34:08 01/29/03 (1)
• there should be a separate board for the chicken/egg discussion... - tunenut 14:37:59 01/29/03 (0)
• see pg.73 WidescreenReview Vol 12 No2 Issue 69 - Joe Murphy Jr 11:54:38 01/27/03 (24)
• As far as DTS, Inc's codecs, yes, but - - Michi 17:02:07 01/27/03 (0)
• From what I can gather from the DTS specs you are right. At least up to 24/96 5.1 lossless should... - LarsB 12:30:46 01/27/03 (3)
• Re: DTS - John Kotches 15:33:03 01/27/03 (2)
• What would it take to alter the Dvd-Video Spec to include 192kHz LPCM? Thx. n/t - HiFi Connasewer 15:40:32 01/27/03 (1)
• Re: A replacement for DVD-Video - John Kotches 16:10:12 01/27/03 (0)
• Re: Never Trust Widescreen Review - NotMe 12:17:55 01/27/03 (18)
• Hmm... better get the stocks of DVD-A's whilst theyre still made - SnaggS 15:58:40 01/27/03 (0)
• What are you debating? - Joe Murphy Jr 14:41:24 01/27/03 (5)
• Joe, I said--- - Michi 01:11:20 01/28/03 (1)
• "The lossless version is also not available for HT or to consumers", the future ? - SnaggS 07:31:09 01/28/03 (0)
• Re: What are you debating? - NotMe 19:28:26 01/27/03 (1)
• Noone else - Joe Murphy Jr 19:50:33 01/27/03 (0)
• So would 6mbits DTS still be Hirez (i.e. better than CD ?) - SnaggS 16:01:18 01/27/03 (0)
• You are uttering complete nonsense - Frank 12:23:48 01/27/03 (10)
• Re: No, You're Spouting Nonsense. Read... - NotMe 19:18:51 01/27/03 (7)
• You misunderstand the documentation. - Frank 00:18:37 01/28/03 (5)
• Re: No Misunderstanding Here - The Documentation is Clear - NotMe 12:00:17 01/28/03 (4)
• Re: No Misunderstanding Here - The Documentation is Clear - Frank 07:35:46 01/29/03 (3)
• Re: No Misunderstanding Here - The Documentation is Clear - NotMe 09:43:52 01/29/03 (2)
• Re: No Misunderstanding Here - The Documentation is Clear - Frank 12:32:04 01/29/03 (1)
• Re: Beating a Dead Horse. - NotMe 21:40:10 01/29/03 (0)
• >>>384kb/s is dedicated to the utterly pointless<<< - Joe Murphy Jr 19:32:52 01/27/03 (0)
• Re: You are uttering complete nonsense - John Kotches 15:36:49 01/27/03 (1)
• I think DTS 24/96 is more "marketing"... - Joe Murphy Jr 19:18:42 01/27/03 (0)
• Calm down kids! He means Kurt Warner (St Louis Rams) - Joe Murphy Jr 10:27:02 01/27/03 (0)
• I know this will sound like I'm an evil traitor but......... - HiFi Connasewer 09:09:50 01/27/03 (7)
• Re: I know this will sound like I'm an evil traitor but......... - NotMe 12:21:28 01/27/03 (0)
• I don't see your point. You can do that on a CD. (nt) - Eric LeRouge 09:26:35 01/27/03 (5)
• Re: I don't see your point. You can do that on a CD. (nt) - HiFi Connasewer 11:27:19 01/27/03 (4)
• >>>5.1 DD/DTS + stereo 96kHz/24bit LPCM disc<<< - Joe Murphy Jr 11:45:28 01/27/03 (3)
• I'll second that also, except... - Eric LeRouge 16:44:07 01/27/03 (2)
• >>>still image<<< - Joe Murphy Jr 19:24:19 01/27/03 (1)
• You can scan Pirelli calendars as your picture gallery, as well (nt :-) - Eric LeRouge 04:45:27 01/28/03 (0)
• Nonsense. - Jim Pearce 08:47:52 01/27/03 (0)
• 'It is believed' . . . . by whom exactly? - Martin says 08:41:43 01/27/03 (0)

Follow Ups

• Verance being audible is a baseless rumor? - Michi 11:16:58 01/28/03 (72)
• Useless to go on on the watermark issue - Frank 12:02:45 01/28/03 (37)
• There are no artifacts. That is marketing rubbish and UNPROVEN {nt} - SnaggS 00:34:08 01/29/03 (36)
• I have heard them - Frank 01:39:06 01/29/03 (35)
• Ok... - Methos 10:10:36 01/29/03 (34)
• Re: Ok... - Frank 10:59:25 01/29/03 (33)
• CHSAM223 BUCKY PIZZARELLI/SWING LIVE M-CH/2-CH SACD... - Methos 11:14:45 01/29/03 (2)
• Re: CHSAM223 BUCKY PIZZARELLI/SWING LIVE M-CH/2-CH SACD... - Frank 11:25:13 01/29/03 (1)
• Specific discs? Sonys or Telarcs preferred...I have only the Chesky sampler and Carla Lother... - Methos 11:28:07 01/29/03 (0)
• Very well...I shall purchase this one, and investigate. BTW, how do you know you are hearing DSD... - Methos 11:05:57 01/29/03 (29)
• Frank, I am also curious about your answer to this one... - Eric LeRouge 12:32:41 01/29/03 (28)
• DSD's limited ability to handle HF percussion is clearly audible. - Jim Pearce 12:47:07 01/29/03 (21)
• It doesn't seem to be audible whatsoever, except to a very small number of DVD-A adherents... - Methos 13:23:06 01/29/03 (4)
• 'reputable magazine ' ? - Frank 13:34:36 01/29/03 (3)
• No, they're always recognised in the tech measurements section. In fact, much ink is often spilled.. - Methos 13:45:32 01/29/03 (2)
• Re: No, they're always recognised in the tech measurements section. In fact, much ink is often spill - Frank 13:54:38 01/29/03 (1)
• Do I maintain that SET amps are always more musical than push-pull SS designs? No... - Methos 15:14:50 01/29/03 (0)
• "I can name at least three discs off the top of my head." Please do, with at least the track if not - Methos 13:00:13 01/29/03 (15)
• Methos, try this one... - Jim Pearce 13:34:03 01/29/03 (14)
• can you provide another example? - Christine Tham 22:24:38 01/29/03 (7)
• Re: can you provide another example? - Jim Pearce 06:44:45 01/30/03 (6)
• Re: can you provide another example? - Christine Tham 11:42:04 01/30/03 (5)
• Re: can you provide another example? - Jim Pearce 12:01:59 01/30/03 (4)
• no you recall incorrectly - Christine Tham 14:24:10 01/30/03 (3)
• My normal listening level is 70dB, not 80 dB. - Jim Pearce 20:24:14 01/30/03 (2)
• no - i have never stated what my "normal" listening level is - Christine Tham 21:34:43 01/30/03 (1)
• I listen to too much vinyl. - Jim Pearce 22:24:43 01/30/03 (0)
• "more clearer" ... need "more education" ? {nt} - SnaggS 16:08:06 01/29/03 (1)
• A slip of the digit. You can't spell cat.nt - Jim Pearce 20:45:07 01/29/03 (0)
• Excellent, I have that one. - Methos 13:49:42 01/29/03 (3)
• This is getting interesting (nt) - Eric LeRouge 14:03:29 01/29/03 (2)
• don't get your hopes up... - tunenut 22:01:09 01/29/03 (1)
• Agreed. - Jim Pearce 07:09:29 01/30/03 (0)
• Re: Frank, I am also curious about your answer to this one... - Frank 12:46:09 01/29/03 (5)
• Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Eric LeRouge 14:28:31 01/29/03 (4)
• Re: Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Zoltan 06:55:48 01/30/03 (1)
• Interesting - Eric LeRouge 04:04:07 01/31/03 (0)
• Re: Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Frank 06:04:18 01/30/03 (1)
• Thanks, I'll try them - Eric LeRouge 03:55:01 01/31/03 (0)
• I mean Warner dropping PCM. - Jim Pearce 11:36:45 01/28/03 (33)
• Well, OK. I definitely do listen to DVD-A's though. heh. - Michi 17:33:14 01/28/03 (0)
• question - Joe Murphy Jr 11:49:11 01/28/03 (31)
• In the artist's interest no, but with labels such as Warner, the artist doesn't own or control it. - Michi 17:34:25 01/28/03 (3)
• Why not ? - Frank 01:37:35 01/29/03 (2)
• I know. That's what I used to encode Verance for. - Michi 05:25:04 01/31/03 (1)
• Re: I know. That's what I used to encode Verance for. - Frank 06:20:00 01/31/03 (0)
• Re: question - Frank 12:07:42 01/28/03 (26)
• It was a "yes" or "no" question - Joe Murphy Jr 16:01:19 01/28/03 (25)
• Yes - Frank 09:11:27 01/29/03 (13)
• Thank you for your honest answer. - Joe Murphy Jr 11:15:45 01/29/03 (1)
• Re: Thank you for your honest answer. - Frank 12:12:11 01/29/03 (0)
• they won't - tunenut 10:05:06 01/29/03 (10)
• Not yet. - Frank 11:18:55 01/29/03 (9)
• you are right but... - tunenut 11:27:10 01/29/03 (8)
• Tunenut, don't be too quick to generalize. - Jim Pearce 11:39:50 01/29/03 (7)
• just for fun... - tunenut 22:48:05 01/29/03 (2)
• Re: just for fun... - Frank 07:28:12 01/31/03 (1)
• this is just for fun... - tunenut 09:29:41 01/31/03 (0)
• steganography is here to stay... - tunenut 13:12:47 01/29/03 (3)
• Re: steganography is here to stay... - Frank 13:46:00 01/29/03 (1)
• I have a guitar... - tunenut 13:55:42 01/29/03 (0)
• Well stated. nt - Methos 13:25:11 01/29/03 (0)
• Artists sign their paintings. - Jim Pearce 21:42:29 01/28/03 (10)
• A watermark is NOT an artist's signature. - Joe Murphy Jr 11:36:07 01/29/03 (2)
• As a photographer, its easy. - Jim Pearce 12:16:30 01/29/03 (1)
• Then I speak to you as BOTH -- - Joe Murphy Jr 17:31:53 01/29/03 (0)
• a spurious comparison - tunenut 10:11:03 01/29/03 (6)
• I agree with your post above: it will disappear. - Jim Pearce 10:44:02 01/29/03 (5)
• no I can't... - tunenut 11:13:20 01/29/03 (4)
• Chicken egg or egg chicken problem - Frank 12:19:27 01/29/03 (3)
• the egg of course!!! (NT) - tunenut 12:59:17 01/29/03 (2)
• Marilyn vos Savant had a well-reasoned answer to that question in her column.. - Methos 14:34:08 01/29/03 (1)
• there should be a separate board for the chicken/egg discussion... - tunenut 14:37:59 01/29/03 (0)