In Reply to: Verance being audible is a baseless rumor? posted by Michi on January 28, 2003 at 11:16:58:
Warner chose to use it on their releases and others didn't.I don't like it but I don't like the dsd noise shaping artifacts too.
At least the pcm masters are not contaminaited by the watermarking.
A dsd master will always contains the noise shaping artifacts.Watermarking is optional with DVD Audio AND with sacd.
In fact, Philips demonstrated similar watermarking technology for sacd. It's there for record companies who want to use it.
It's a pity this sacd feature wasn't highlighted in the (biased) audiophile press as well.It's useless to go on and on about it. It will show up on sacd and redbooks sooner or later.
Frank
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Follow Ups
- Useless to go on on the watermark issue - Frank 12:02:45 01/28/03 (37)
- There are no artifacts. That is marketing rubbish and UNPROVEN {nt} - SnaggS 00:34:08 01/29/03 (36)
- I have heard them - Frank 01:39:06 01/29/03 (35)
- Ok... - Methos 10:10:36 01/29/03 (34)
- Re: Ok... - Frank 10:59:25 01/29/03 (33)
- CHSAM223 BUCKY PIZZARELLI/SWING LIVE M-CH/2-CH SACD... - Methos 11:14:45 01/29/03 (2)
- Re: CHSAM223 BUCKY PIZZARELLI/SWING LIVE M-CH/2-CH SACD... - Frank 11:25:13 01/29/03 (1)
- Specific discs? Sonys or Telarcs preferred...I have only the Chesky sampler and Carla Lother... - Methos 11:28:07 01/29/03 (0)
- Very well...I shall purchase this one, and investigate. BTW, how do you know you are hearing DSD... - Methos 11:05:57 01/29/03 (29)
- Frank, I am also curious about your answer to this one... - Eric LeRouge 12:32:41 01/29/03 (28)
- DSD's limited ability to handle HF percussion is clearly audible. - Jim Pearce 12:47:07 01/29/03 (21)
- It doesn't seem to be audible whatsoever, except to a very small number of DVD-A adherents... - Methos 13:23:06 01/29/03 (4)
- 'reputable magazine ' ? - Frank 13:34:36 01/29/03 (3)
- No, they're always recognised in the tech measurements section. In fact, much ink is often spilled.. - Methos 13:45:32 01/29/03 (2)
- Re: No, they're always recognised in the tech measurements section. In fact, much ink is often spill - Frank 13:54:38 01/29/03 (1)
- Do I maintain that SET amps are always more musical than push-pull SS designs? No... - Methos 15:14:50 01/29/03 (0)
- "I can name at least three discs off the top of my head." Please do, with at least the track if not - Methos 13:00:13 01/29/03 (15)
- Methos, try this one... - Jim Pearce 13:34:03 01/29/03 (14)
- can you provide another example? - Christine Tham 22:24:38 01/29/03 (7)
- Re: can you provide another example? - Jim Pearce 06:44:45 01/30/03 (6)
- Re: can you provide another example? - Christine Tham 11:42:04 01/30/03 (5)
- Re: can you provide another example? - Jim Pearce 12:01:59 01/30/03 (4)
- no you recall incorrectly - Christine Tham 14:24:10 01/30/03 (3)
- My normal listening level is 70dB, not 80 dB. - Jim Pearce 20:24:14 01/30/03 (2)
- no - i have never stated what my "normal" listening level is - Christine Tham 21:34:43 01/30/03 (1)
- I listen to too much vinyl. - Jim Pearce 22:24:43 01/30/03 (0)
- "more clearer" ... need "more education" ? {nt} - SnaggS 16:08:06 01/29/03 (1)
- A slip of the digit. You can't spell cat.nt - Jim Pearce 20:45:07 01/29/03 (0)
- Excellent, I have that one. - Methos 13:49:42 01/29/03 (3)
- This is getting interesting (nt) - Eric LeRouge 14:03:29 01/29/03 (2)
- don't get your hopes up... - tunenut 22:01:09 01/29/03 (1)
- Agreed. - Jim Pearce 07:09:29 01/30/03 (0)
- Re: Frank, I am also curious about your answer to this one... - Frank 12:46:09 01/29/03 (5)
- Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Eric LeRouge 14:28:31 01/29/03 (4)
- Re: Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Zoltan 06:55:48 01/30/03 (1)
- Interesting - Eric LeRouge 04:04:07 01/31/03 (0)
- Re: Thanks. + Some more impressions... - Frank 06:04:18 01/30/03 (1)
- Thanks, I'll try them - Eric LeRouge 03:55:01 01/31/03 (0)