In Reply to: Re: Comments on Kait posted by Todd Krieger on February 7, 2007 at 23:51:41:
"Audio across the board is a corrupt industry, be it high-end, mainstream, or tweakdom. .I disagree. I believe that it's mostly about hubris, black magic and herbs but IMO that doesn't make it corrupt.
(This is why I no longer read the rags. I don't even read the internet rags.) It wouldn't make any difference if Kait's products were separable from high-end audio. Or any audio
I don't read the magazines because they are selectively objective. They can be positive and subjective on one hand at the same time negative and objective on the other. The claims made by proponents of Kaits or Bose aren't any more or less substantiable than claims made by proponents of most other gear.
The quality of sound reproduction has gone in the tank, and I really cannot blame some people for channeling their frustrations into hoping or believing the presence of a cheap clock or a jar of rocks will improve the sound of their audio systems.
As if buying a clock or jar of rocks is anymore hopeless than buying a new turntable or more expensive speakers for most audiophiles. Far as I can tell audiophiles are famous for making bad purchases - the fact is buying a jar of rocks is far less expensive than making a bad upgrade decision.
What's worse buying a jar of rocks and believing it makes an improvement or buying into the hubris (almost always marketing/magazine generated) surrounding some new recommended component only to end up with worse sound?
Singling out Bose and Kait's seems analagous to lubing up for the other manufacturers who are doing exactly the same thing.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
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Follow Ups
- I don't think the audio industry is corrupt by any stretch of the imagination. - Don T 08:25:49 02/08/07 (85)
- I Think It's Corrupt Beyond Recognition..... - Todd Krieger 11:25:49 02/08/07 (84)
- Re: I Think It's Corrupt Beyond Recognition..... - Werner 04:42:34 02/15/07 (0)
- Re: I Think It's Corrupt Beyond Recognition..... - Don T 10:05:52 02/09/07 (7)
- Re: I Think It's Corrupt Beyond Recognition..... - john curl 01:42:12 02/10/07 (5)
- "better sound" - Don T 07:47:18 02/12/07 (3)
- Re: "better sound" - john curl 10:52:20 02/12/07 (2)
- Nice analogy! - Don T 08:00:34 02/13/07 (0)
- You should now be gaining an appreciation of Donny's problem. - bjh 18:56:48 02/12/07 (0)
- Re: You missed the big picture in a big way..... - theaudiohobby 15:52:18 02/11/07 (0)
- A Fair Assessment.... - Todd Krieger 10:36:45 02/09/07 (0)
- Re: I Think It's Corrupt Beyond Recognition..... - morricab 03:24:08 02/09/07 (64)
- You Made My Point!!!! - Todd Krieger 10:33:48 02/09/07 (63)
- Re: You Made My Point!!!! - morricab 03:52:11 02/11/07 (54)
- Re: There you go again... - geoffkait 07:19:06 02/11/07 (53)
- Re: There you go again... - morricab 02:12:18 02/12/07 (52)
- Re: This is the 21st century, Morriclam - try to be in it. nt - geoffkait 05:11:23 02/12/07 (51)
- Re: This is the 21st century, Morriclam - try to be in it. nt - morricab 05:21:03 02/12/07 (50)
- Re: Ah, that old Skeptics Handbook warhorse... - geoffkait 06:49:55 02/12/07 (49)
- Re: Ah, that old Skeptics Handbook warhorse... - morricab 08:44:11 02/12/07 (48)
- Re: "I know a lot how light interacts with matter - take that for what you will." - geoffkait 09:15:31 02/12/07 (47)
- perhaps he was referring to... - BS64 16:09:33 02/24/07 (0)
- Re: "I know a lot how light interacts with matter - take that for what you will." - morricab 12:50:15 02/12/07 (45)
- Re: I give up - you're - geoffkait 13:14:52 02/12/07 (44)
- Re: I give up - you're - morricab 04:18:55 02/13/07 (43)
- Re: Technical discussion - geoffkait 05:14:24 02/13/07 (42)
- Actually, Geoff... - robert young 11:42:24 02/13/07 (41)
- Re: "Now, how about it?" - geoffkait 12:29:01 02/13/07 (40)
- Thank you for doing a thorough search on my posts. - robert young 13:27:10 02/13/07 (39)
- Re: You're pulling my leg, right? nt - geoffkait 15:11:19 02/13/07 (0)
- And thanks for the 4 different versions of your post as well! - robert young 13:46:12 02/13/07 (37)
- Re: No problem... - geoffkait 14:08:31 02/13/07 (36)
- Troll?? That's coming from you?? - robert young 04:43:30 02/14/07 (35)
- Re: Troll?? That's coming from you?? - morricab 05:14:33 02/14/07 (34)
- Re: Speaking of trolls, Morriclam is one of my favs... - geoffkait 05:39:25 02/14/07 (33)
- Re: Speaking of trolls, Morriclam is one of my favs... - morricab 08:42:05 02/14/07 (32)
- Re: "Talk tecnical" - geoffkait 09:32:05 02/14/07 (31)
- Re: "Talk tecnical" - morricab 12:56:06 02/14/07 (28)
- Re: Morricab - caution, this might make you blush - geoffkait 10:23:07 02/15/07 (26)
- Geoffrey, here's the complete last sentence from Wikepedia: - robert young 13:10:51 02/15/07 (25)
- Re: Troll expert - geoffkait 13:36:32 02/15/07 (24)
- It's not working, Geoff. - robert young 11:02:09 02/16/07 (23)
- Re: No problem here - geoffkait 12:03:02 02/16/07 (22)
- Thanks for the characterization! - robert young 17:14:42 02/16/07 (21)
- Re: If the shoe fits - geoffkait 17:53:24 02/16/07 (20)
- Your best yet!! Wow, Geoff, you really have a way with cliches! - robert young 11:21:30 02/17/07 (19)
- Re: "turn the thread back towards the technical" - geoffkait 12:42:18 02/17/07 (18)
- Re: "turn the thread back towards the technical" - morricab 13:14:34 02/18/07 (17)
- Re: Moderators, please send Morricab to Whiners Woad - geoffkait 15:31:35 02/18/07 (16)
- Re: Moderators, please send Morricab to Whiners Woad - morricab 07:40:51 02/20/07 (15)
- Re: "Go read my discussions on amplifiers" - geoffkait 10:36:49 02/20/07 (14)
- Re: "Go read my discussions on amplifiers" - morricab 16:09:52 02/20/07 (13)
- Re: "The discussion of amps is timeless" - geoffkait 02:39:32 02/21/07 (0)
- Re: "Go read my discussions on amplifiers" - morricab 02:37:25 02/21/07 (11)
- Re: "Deleting your posts?" - geoffkait 04:21:25 02/21/07 (10)
- One last question. - morricab 08:17:40 02/21/07 (7)
- Re: "Do you have a science education... at all?" - geoffkait 09:41:09 02/21/07 (6)
- Re: "Do you have a science education... at all?" - morricab 13:48:28 02/21/07 (5)
- Re: "You obviously know so little about how real science is done"" - geoffkait 14:40:48 02/21/07 (4)
- Re: "You obviously know so little about how real science is done"" - morricab 16:26:38 02/21/07 (3)
- Re: "You obviously know so little about how real science is done"" - geoffkait 17:26:59 02/21/07 (2)
- Re: "You obviously know so little about how real science is done"" - morricab 02:16:14 02/22/07 (1)
- Re: "Zurich is the best city in the world" - geoffkait 06:06:55 02/22/07 (0)
- Re: "Deleting your posts?" - morricab 08:08:14 02/21/07 (0)
- Re: "Deleting your posts?" - morricab 08:06:43 02/21/07 (0)
- Re: "He bothered to reply as well" - geoffkait 14:50:48 02/14/07 (0)
- Indeed! - Don T 11:22:22 02/14/07 (1)
- Re: "I didn't think it was funny" - geoffkait 11:47:21 02/14/07 (0)
- Doesn't it all come down to this: No one knows exactly... - clarkjohnsen 11:56:02 02/09/07 (7)
- Re: Doesn't it all come down to this: No one knows exactly... - TomLarson 20:00:55 02/10/07 (6)
- "Someone knew enough about how digital works to invent the damn medium." Right! And someone too... - clarkjohnsen 12:30:04 02/11/07 (5)
- Re: "Someone knew enough about how digital works to invent the damn medium." Right! And someone too... - TomLarson 19:30:16 02/13/07 (4)
- "Utter dismissal of the original invention..." Not me, not for years anyway. - clarkjohnsen 09:22:19 02/14/07 (1)
- Re: "Utter dismissal of the original invention..." Not me, not for years anyway. - TomLarson 10:43:09 02/14/07 (0)
- Perhaps... - robert young 04:45:44 02/14/07 (1)
- "Hijacked by commercial interests." No, those were the interests that made it happen. I have an article... - clarkjohnsen 09:09:24 02/14/07 (0)
- Big difference between naive and corrupt...(nt) - mkuller 18:50:03 02/08/07 (0)
- Re: Big difference between naive and corrupt...(nt) - Todd Krieger 01:29:26 02/09/07 (0)
- Corrupt Beyond Recognition? - AJinFLA 12:58:37 02/08/07 (2)
- You Forgot To Mention...... - Todd Krieger 10:40:05 02/09/07 (0)
- Your disappointment is... what's the word that sends you twits up the wall, oh yeah... Palpable! - bjh 13:39:53 02/08/07 (0)
- Re: I Think It's Corrupt Beyond Recognition..... - TomLarson 11:51:13 02/08/07 (4)
- Don Allen of Phoenix..... - Todd Krieger 01:26:13 02/09/07 (0)
- Re: Don Allen of Phoenix..... - TomLarson 12:04:58 02/10/07 (1)
- You Got Mail...... - Todd Krieger 07:14:23 02/14/07 (0)
- I love satisfaction too... - Wellfed 14:47:01 02/09/07 (0)