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In Reply to: What's wrong with bare copper-wire speaker connections? posted by The Wiz on April 20, 2007 at 17:54:03:
Looking at it from a simple viewpoint, it would seem that a bare copper wire tightened down inside a 5-way binding post would be the best connection. The logic of "fewer connection points" is very seductive.However, as someone who has bothered to seriously listen to speaker wires connected in a variety of ways, and then attempted to correlate what I heard with measurements, I found that what seems eminently logical, may not really be the best way to go.
Bare wires come in two forms: solid or stranded.
The stranded can not be tightend down that well. Place it into the hole that runs through the binding post, and if you tighten down enough to start getting a good tight connection, the strands start getting cut off. If you tighten it to the point just before the strands start to cut through, then it is not really that tight, the wire can be wiggled back and forth in the post.
(Minor aside here: if you can wiggle the wire or plug in any connection, then it is not making a good speaker level, high current connection. There MUST be a tight enough fit between the connector/termination and the wire that no motion is possible within or at the connection, or in other words, if the wire can move across what it is making electrical contact with, it is not making a very good conection.)
If you try to wrap the wire around the post, and tighten down the nut, well, we have probably all experienced the inevitable squish-out of the stranded wire strands as they get squeezed out to the sides. If you do not tighten the nut enough to cause the wire to start squishing out, it just is not tight enough, it can be moved or wiggled and come loose.
Tinning the wire is not a good idea, solder is not that conductive, and adds another layer of connection, and one which can not be tightened down enough either, the tinned wire deforms and gives (more easily than solid copper), and ultimately, can be wiggled or moved, and come loose.
If we consider a solid wire, this might seem to avoid the main problems with the stranded, as you have one "big" wire to tighten down against, and this would seem to solve the problem. But no, the copper deforms as you tighten down, and you can not get the connection tight enough without deforming the copper. It might seem that smashing the wire down enought to make it flat, and thus, create a "good connection" that way would be a good way to go, but the severe deformation of the copper required to acheive this also creates a fracture boundary right where the wire goes back to being round, in essence, you have damaged the metalurgical structure of the metal, just like when you bend the paper clip back and forth, until it is almost ready to break. The smashed portion is not only physically weak, but electrically inferior due to the creation of numerous HUGE voids in the copper's crystalline structure.
I have seen such smashed wire ends break-off after very little time (exposure to the vibrations of the speakers is enough to complete the stress fracture) and fail completely, but even if they don't outright fail in such a manner, they are a lousy spot in the conductor that the signal MUST pass through.
When I listend to a properly crimped spade lug, tightend down so it could not be moved or wiggled, THAT had very little "sound of it's own", compared to bare wire, or banana's or GACK! spring loaded push-in terminals.
As a very simple definition, a proper crimp is one that has not been soldered in any way, and that the wire can not be pulled free from, with the wire itself failing first. This kind of crimp creates a "cold-weld", and has very little audible effect on the sound.
After listening and finding that bare wire connections just did not sound as good as they "should", I then took some measurements.
A well tightened proper crimp had the lowest resistance, a locking banana plug the next lowest, then bare solid wires (this was an average, since the readings varied from time to time, and from connection to connection), then a good grade of "regular" banana's, then stranded wire cobbled onto the post as best as could be done (a doubled over section stuffed into the center hole worked best for the short term), then the pins for the spring loaded push-in type terminals were way last (highest resistance).
The bare wire connections had a lot of variance in how much resistance they had, and at no time, even with contact cleaners, freshly stripped wire, etc., could I get a solid low resistance connection that was consistent and reliable over time. Only the crimped spades provided that kind of measured performance, and sounded as solid and consistent sonically.
One side benifit of using a gold plated spade with a gold plated post, is that as long as the parts are clean to begin with, once fully tightened, the connection will not oxidize or go bad over time, and the connection will remain low resistance.
So NEVER use bare stranded wire for anything but an emergency short-term connection, and strongly consider getting a decent set of spade lugs and/or matching posts for each speaker level connection point that must be disconnectable.
For more on audio cables, see:
http://www.geocities.com/jonrisch/i1.htm
AND
http://www.geocities.com/jonrisch/s1.htm
Jon Risch
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Thanks Jon, for pointing out many areas I've never considered in wiring/terminations!
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.........while I don't discount your research into connector resistivity and connector solidity, and hold your research/opinion in the highest regard, I heard a MUCH better balance between drivers and a more natural presentation when I removed the Vampire spade connectors from a tri-wire harness of Acarian Sytems LTD. Black Orpheus speaker cable.The cables are feeding the speaker after the outboard passive crossovers and connecting the copper/silver stranded wire directly to the unplated copper binding posts on the speaker provided the above observations.
Could the "differences" I hear be attributed to the increased resistivity in the connections that U measured? I know I can tighten down on the high count stranded wire quite effectively without loosing any strands that could have been damaged/severed in the previous connection.
May I present that even in a "Proper" spade lug crimp using normal hand tools, there will be some copper strand deformation. In a high pressure crimp, the strands would be deformed to the point of fusing together, thus the term "cold weld" would they not?
I really don't think a "cold weld" connection can be implemented with normal hand tools. One needs at least a ratcheting crimper or a high pressure crimp machine. IMHO, AQ does it best with their fusing of the connector/wire with high voltage welding, thus eliminating the degradation that even the best mechanical crimps provide.
JMHO of course and I'm sure I'll be "taken to school" on this but I am always eager to learn.
I think the key is getting a good low resitance connection that does not go bad with time.If you were abnle to acheive that with bare wire, then you were either really lucky, or really know how to wrap your wire around a binding post.
As with many things, YMMV, but on the whole, I have not tended to hear superior connections with bare copper wires.
Jon Risch
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Hi Jon,
As always your insights are appreciated. I've been aware of them for some time on the subject of crimping. Recently I set up a nice ancillary retro/vintage room in my basement and as I have a number of different tube and solid state amps, as well as different speakers, I've been trying to come to terms with efficient speaker connectivity. Bananas seem to me the easiest to switch around, but I've had issues with proper tension on some combinations w/ binding posts.To make a long story short, I've always felt inept to make good crimp connections for spades (or anything else for that matter) and those I've made by hand have been sericable but certainly lacking the assurance of a cold solder joint.
It would be a great service if you could provide some insight into the proper tools to achieve this and their cost/availability. When I've gone looking, I've ended up disuaded by cost and somewhat confused on exactly what would be best.
Many thanks in advance,
Chris
For most speaker cable spades, an uninsulated ratcheting crimp tool can be used to do the job.For an example, see:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=360-680
All of $18This is a "Crimp Frame", which is a set of crimping levers/handles with a jaw 'base' for an assortment of crimping dies to fit the jaws (the actual shape of the crimping surface jaws), which an appropriate one for speaker cable spades would be:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=360-684
All of $9Total cost with shipping, somewhere around $35 (unless you live in Timbuktu)
Another example is:
http://www.amazon.com/PRO-CRIMP-TOOL-NON-INSUL-TERMINALS/dp/B0002KR9H0/ref=sr_1_23/002-1761253-9608826?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1178158145&sr=1-23These will get the job done, but you can spend more and get an Amp or a Molex brand crimp tool ($100 and up), or get instant gratification by finding what is available from local electronics distributors, or Home Depot/Lowes, etc. Beware the $5 non-ratcheting crimp tool billed as "universal" or "general purpose", the crimp cradle needs to be the right shape, and hex, round or oval is NOT it for crimp-able spade lugs.
See the pictures in the URL's I provided, the crimp cradle needs to be of a final "U" shape, in order to keep the wire in a good spread out position, and to curl and tighten the spade lug crimp fingers together all the way. The Parts Express tool has three different sizes which cover a range of wire gauges.
If you have good hand strength, the ratcheting types are not absolutely necessary, but I do mean good hand strength. I can do it, but then, I used to be able to sometimes break the handles off of pliers if I got carried away. Not as much of a problem since the car wreck, but I still don't need a ratcheting tool.
I personally have a Molex brand general purpose crimp tool I got second hand for cheap, where the ratcheting mechanism was broken, so I can make some pretty good crimps whenever.
It may sound funny but I find making cables very relaxing and akin to gardening...there's always something nice to harvest. Based on what you suggested I'll probably go with the PE ratcheted device. I do have a good grip and use a Klein crimper now, but the ratchted device sounds more consistent and pretty reasonable. Many Thanks again!
Chris
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I meant gas tight crimp or cold weld not cold solder joint.
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but respectfully disagree when it comes to solid core wire. From my experience, a direct connection to the binding post sounds better than any spade or plug I have tried (crimped or otherwise).
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Using the common "pliars" to crimp does not create either a "cold weld" (your term) or a gas tight crimp. Such a crimp will soon fail down the road and it is not unlike using the bare wire.
A cam type crimper from Burndy or Pallidan will create a gas tight crimp. The starting point for the less expensive Pallidan is about $75 dollars.
The pliar type crimper available from Kmart or Sears should be banned.
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I believe we are esentially in agreement on this point.Pliers do not a proper crimp make.
Crimping tools that are essentially fancy pliers will seldom make a proper crimp either, but if enough pressure is applied, they can be made to do so. The problem is how to apply enough pressure without smashing the wire right off the spade. This is where the ratcheting crimpers come into their own.
Jon Risch
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"The pliar type crimper available from Kmart or Sears should be banned."I agree 100%!!! The pliar type crimpers which only smash the connector into an oval shape suck at making any decent crimp. We have them at work and I want to throw them away every time I have to use them.
The Klein or Ideal crimp tool as shown makes a much better crimp due to the shape of the crimp and how it deforms the connector to a much tighter crimp. Of course, the ratcheting Ideal crimpers start at $142 bucks but would be worth it.
Cheers,
It was $75 ten years ago. It has paid for itself many times over.
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