In Reply to: RE: 'Interpretation' and 'reinterpretation' posted by John Atkinson on December 21, 2007 at 11:50:25:
1. "Please note that I did amend the text of this article a while back to more accurately reflect the Lipshitz findings."See link. Are you trying to become a public jester or something?
2. "That you continue to quote the original text is somewhat dishonest on your part, I feel."
Sorry if you feel wounded about it, but, first of all, the point is and has been about the truthfulness of what was said in that column that you originally published.
Secondly, the point that you have now added -- "[and definitely audible on test signals]" -- is a masterly example of your evasiveness, though, I have to add, quite clever in its own way: it seems like it's a modification of some sort but in the reader it only reinforces the false understanding of what Lipshitz did (your misrepresentation of his research results). Bingo! You think you now got it all -- is that it? No need to own up to what you've falsely claimed, and still keep your fans happy?
It's no problem for me to include those 6 new words in my quotations from now on.
On a more serious note, please explain how you think that totally tangential note corrects anything about the false statements about Lipshitz' results that are still there, unmodified? Yes, the ones we have been talking about... If you are forgetting you can consult the link.
3. "I also wrote in that 1988 article '(Indeed, it [ie, absolute polarity] is one of the few things that can be reliably detected with double-blind testing.)'
This statement of mine is absolutely correct. So why do you keep quoting it as a 'gotcha'."Sorry, what??? Well, if this is "absolutely correct" it should be very quick and easy for you to provide a couple of references to such DBTs with which audibility of absolute polarity signal reversal has been detected on music (this is what you claim, not your newest little white "misquotation" above, and you claim it still today: See last 2 sentences at the end of 3rd paragraph in "Absolute Polarity"). If it has been "reliably" detected in DBTs, surely there must be at least two DBTs with which it has been detected, since otherwise you couldn't even vaguely suggest "reliability," which by any acccount should indicate greater than 50% success rate in a series (plurality of tests).
Right, the point about statistics and you :-)
So looking forward to learning about those DBTs! Thanks in advance!
But since we both know there are in fact zero such DBTs, you better start thinking of some new evasion for your reply.
You think someone still believes you are simply making innocent errors upon innocent errors? What a careless editor-in-chief they have in that case picked for the most prestigious audio journal in the country... ;-)
Can you help thinking that if only you had acknowledged and corrected these "errors" already, say, last winter, there'd be no need for you to push further and further forward on this increasingly tortuous path of more and more complicated evasions and more and more obvious denials that indeed are busy becoming most unflattering to you and your case?
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Follow Ups
- RE: 'Interpretation' and 'reinterpretation' - tlyyra 11:30:02 12/22/07 (5)
- RE: 'Interpretation' and 'reinterpretation' - John Atkinson 14:57:16 12/22/07 (4)
- RE: 'Interpretation' and 'reinterpretation' - tlyyra 05:37:18 12/23/07 (3)
- RE: 'Interpretation' and 'reinterpretation' - John Atkinson 08:01:18 12/24/07 (2)
- "Semantic forests" and still no evidence you can cite? - tlyyra 08:59:06 12/26/07 (1)
- More mindreading, it appears - John Atkinson 13:51:11 12/27/07 (0)