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In Reply to: Where did you posted by unclestu52 on December 2, 2007 at 17:43:13:
The second remain but those behind the speakers had to go. I tried every array position, but could never get what I got with them out of the room. I tried them along the side of the room and in the back corner, all to no avail. My room is 18 x 24 x 11.5. I also had trouble with the Brilliant Pebbles and they are also out of the room.
Both pair of Halographs worked quite well with the Beauhorn Virtuosos.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Steve Hoffman and Shakti Hallograph, some comments - KlausR. 06:07:02 12/02/07 (138)
- How do you explain the audibility of sound effects based on making comb filters? - morricab 01:43:06 12/06/07 (6)
- RE: How do you explain the audibility of sound effects based on making comb filters? - KlausR. 04:48:37 12/06/07 (5)
- RE: How do you explain the audibility of sound effects based on making comb filters? - morricab 08:03:31 12/07/07 (3)
- RE: How do you explain the audibility of sound effects based on making comb filters? - KlausR. 22:59:25 12/07/07 (2)
- RE: How do you explain the audibility of sound effects based on making comb filters? - morricab 02:16:20 12/10/07 (1)
- RE: How do you explain the audibility of sound effects based on making comb filters? - KlausR. 03:52:02 12/10/07 (0)
- What a gloriously golden opportunity for you Klaus - Sordidman 09:03:12 12/06/07 (0)
- For one grand a pair, they better work as claimed. - cheap-Jack 11:48:37 12/04/07 (51)
- Voodoo? This is highly hypocritical - AJinFLA 18:03:53 12/05/07 (8)
- Calm down & read my post again. - cheap-Jack 08:16:02 12/06/07 (7)
- Without any convincing scientific rational, measurement reports even better, to how such claims are based on - AJinFLA 16:03:35 12/06/07 (6)
- It's the cost that makes the difference. - cheap-Jack 07:56:47 12/07/07 (5)
- The cost? I don't remember that law of Physics. Can this formula or theory can be found in an Acoustics text? - AJinFLA 16:02:52 12/07/07 (4)
- Yea, keeeeep on arguing. This may draw some attention, pal. (nt) - cheap-Jack 11:14:18 12/10/07 (3)
- No rational explanations for your silver wire sound superiority? - AJinFLA 17:13:36 12/10/07 (2)
- Which high school you studied.. - cheap-Jack 08:23:33 12/12/07 (1)
- A high school that allows me to differentiate electrical conductivity and "conveys music better" - AJinFLA 07:28:01 12/16/07 (0)
- And If They Don't Work...... - Todd Krieger 18:42:58 12/04/07 (11)
- ......then you lack sufficient hearing ability to perceive them - AJinFLA 18:19:56 12/05/07 (2)
- So I Lack Sufficient Hearing....... - Todd Krieger 23:32:24 12/09/07 (0)
- Do YOU believe that every system has the same resolving power? [nt] - Wellfed 22:04:03 12/05/07 (0)
- Would I get a tax receipt for the donation? (nt) - cheap-Jack 07:51:01 12/05/07 (0)
- As I have said, my second pair are no longer used, I have twice been approached by people wanting to buy them. - Norm 06:40:36 12/05/07 (0)
- Even if they didn't work they could easily be tweaked... - bjh 19:58:45 12/04/07 (5)
- Be nice, bud. (nt) - cheap-Jack 09:28:25 12/05/07 (4)
- RE: Be nice, bud. (nt) - bjh 12:10:39 12/05/07 (3)
- You don't get my hunour ?! - cheap-Jack 12:28:07 12/05/07 (2)
- Guess I missed it, sorry... - bjh 12:42:08 12/05/07 (1)
- A very passionate Duh! to that Mr. H... - Wellfed 23:08:20 12/06/07 (0)
- Well bully for you! But remember a lot of our objectivists here claim - bjh 13:09:35 12/04/07 (29)
- If we stay at PHP long enough... - kerr 17:39:46 12/04/07 (28)
- What amazes me... - bjh 19:37:47 12/04/07 (27)
- What amazes me is the amount of misunderstanding. - Pat D 07:42:32 12/10/07 (9)
- Speaking of misunderstanding your post is an excellent example of just that! - bjh 12:54:47 12/10/07 (8)
- You certainly do misunderstand. - Pat D 16:53:40 12/10/07 (7)
- Citations Please! or GMAB - thetubeguy1954 10:25:31 12/11/07 (1)
- RE: Citations Please! or GMAB - Pat D 18:06:11 12/14/07 (0)
- Now you're just flailing about... but - bjh 19:56:14 12/10/07 (4)
- As I said, doubtful claims of audible differences are the concern. - Pat D 20:56:19 12/10/07 (3)
- Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn nt - bjh 20:57:31 12/10/07 (2)
- AJ had some good advice for you . . . - Pat D 21:04:23 12/10/07 (1)
- Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn nt - bjh 22:18:48 12/10/07 (0)
- RE: What amazes me... - thetubeguy1954 10:02:12 12/06/07 (14)
- So who recommends choosing equipment using DBTs, unless you want to? - Pat D 10:41:15 12/10/07 (4)
- Do Some Research For Yourself "IF" You Care To Know! - thetubeguy1954 18:23:23 12/10/07 (3)
- As I thought, you don't know of anyone who recommends using DBTs to choose equipment, unless one prefers to. - Pat D 18:38:54 12/10/07 (2)
- Try Increasing YOUR Reading Comprehension BEFORE Speaking Pat - thetubeguy1954 06:26:01 12/11/07 (1)
- Still talking in a vacuum, eh? - Pat D 14:50:06 12/15/07 (0)
- RE: What amazes me... - Peter H-son 11:57:01 12/07/07 (8)
- Hey Peter.... - robert young 17:30:15 12/09/07 (0)
- RE: What amazes me... - thetubeguy1954 14:18:52 12/07/07 (6)
- RE: What amazes me... - theaudiohobby 14:41:18 12/07/07 (5)
- What amazes me... Is How Quite Peter H-son Gets When Shown To Be Incorrect! - thetubeguy1954 06:21:32 12/10/07 (4)
- RE: What amazes me... Is How Quite Peter H-son Gets When Shown To Be Incorrect! - theaudiohobby 13:55:00 12/10/07 (3)
- RE: What amazes me... Is How Quite Peter H-son Gets When Shown To Be Incorrect! - thetubeguy1954 09:06:19 12/11/07 (2)
- RE: What amazes me... Is How Quite Peter H-son Gets When Shown To Be Incorrect! - theaudiohobby 10:52:18 12/11/07 (1)
- Just What I Expected Of You Hobby -- No Proof Just More Baseless LFO Accusations. - thetubeguy1954 12:44:22 12/11/07 (0)
- Great point..... - Sordidman 09:37:27 12/05/07 (0)
- RE: What amazes me... - kerr 05:15:15 12/05/07 (0)
- What did YOU experience when listening to the Hallographs? [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:39:40 12/04/07 (4)
- What are you talking about, listening? Klaus never listens unless the research supports doing so. nt - Norm 11:32:01 12/04/07 (3)
- What research?... - Wellfed 21:13:23 12/04/07 (2)
- Well, he does give citations, but who has time to check whether they really do lead to his conclusions? nt - Norm 07:39:33 12/05/07 (1)
- I was being flippant... - Wellfed 12:31:41 12/05/07 (0)
- RE: Steve Hoffman and Shakti Hallograph, some comments - rdf 11:15:44 12/02/07 (11)
- RE: Comb filtering at the least will be severe - KlausR. 02:13:49 12/03/07 (10)
- RE: Comb filtering at the least will be severe - rdf 12:04:17 12/03/07 (9)
- Relevant citations re: early reflections - KlausR. 00:09:49 12/05/07 (8)
- RE: Relevant citations re: early reflections - rdf 08:33:47 12/05/07 (2)
- RE: Relevant citations re: early reflections - KlausR. 06:31:59 12/06/07 (1)
- RE: Relevant citations re: early reflections - rdf 13:01:52 12/16/07 (0)
- Thanks for the bibilography, Klaus. - robert young 05:32:44 12/05/07 (4)
- RE: Yes, they're called people - KlausR. 04:58:30 12/06/07 (3)
- depends on the space... - robert young 05:12:24 12/06/07 (2)
- RE: the sound that leads to a reflection doesn't know nor does it care - KlausR. 06:35:25 12/06/07 (1)
- Yes. In designing a space.... - robert young 08:52:09 12/06/07 (0)
- I heard a demonstration of them at CES, with and without. They work. - Norm 10:36:49 12/02/07 (24)
- Gosh. You should call James Randi and collect $1 Million. - Dr. Philosophy 11:02:00 12/06/07 (3)
- I agree with Michael, it is a ruse. nt - Norm 06:02:30 12/17/07 (0)
- Do you honestly believe James Randi's 'Challenge' to be legitimate?... - Wellfed 17:45:44 12/06/07 (0)
- This audiophile thought his superior listening skills and hearing ability could net him $1 Million too. - AJinFLA 16:14:33 12/06/07 (0)
- They worked for me and Stan Ricker too. But we're both idiots, right? nt - clarkjohnsen 11:22:24 12/02/07 (17)
- Great to see Klaus and the Naysayer gang endorsing Shakti via their negativity -t - Sordidman 12:56:11 12/03/07 (5)
- RE: Great to see Klaus and the Naysayer gang endorsing Shakti via their negativity -t - Peter H-son 13:53:48 12/06/07 (4)
- Problem is; which is the better arbiter of what is a lie... - Wellfed 23:32:17 12/06/07 (0)
- Great another one - Sordidman 19:33:35 12/06/07 (2)
- RE: Great another one - Peter H-son 12:15:26 12/07/07 (1)
- "If somebody wants to measure his LPs, it's his headache." - robert young 17:33:52 12/09/07 (0)
- Ahh Clark, didn't you know.. - Cpk 18:53:18 12/02/07 (5)
- RE: Ahh Clark, didn't you know.. - Dan Banquer 06:36:58 12/03/07 (4)
- OK Dan - Cpk 09:32:35 12/03/07 (3)
- Short term memory loss an issue? - Dan Banquer 10:14:25 12/03/07 (2)
- Sarcasm Dan - Cpk 11:36:27 12/03/07 (1)
- "Convenient" indeed. But they won't pay the slightest attention to your words. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:22:28 12/13/07 (0)
- If you say so. The term I was thinking of was "susceptible". *Very* susceptible (nt) - AJinFLA 11:31:15 12/02/07 (4)
- Thankfully I can hear! How can your simplistic mind account for my not liking two pair? nt - Norm 11:35:18 12/02/07 (3)
- Where did you - unclestu52 17:43:13 12/02/07 (2)
- First pair behind speakers. Second behind me on diagonal toward back corner. - Norm 19:50:23 12/02/07 (1)
- First pair behind speakers. - unclestu52 20:06:06 12/02/07 (0)
- On your mind, yes, of course. That is the intended target (nt) - AJinFLA 10:58:17 12/02/07 (1)
- I don't know where else ones senses would have an impact. nt - Norm 11:37:01 12/02/07 (0)
- Not that it will mean - unclestu52 09:46:15 12/02/07 (19)
- RE: Not that it will mean - KlausR. 00:30:56 12/03/07 (9)
- RE: Not that it will mean - rick_m 09:08:30 12/03/07 (0)
- "Did you do the test blindfolded?" Actually, yes. - Norm 06:36:55 12/03/07 (4)
- RE: 'now listen to this.' - KlausR. 07:07:42 12/03/07 (3)
- As you know, many consider psychoacoustic methods invalid. nt - Norm 12:05:16 12/03/07 (2)
- Tell this to your doctor when you need a hearing aid (nt) - KlausR. 23:52:06 12/03/07 (1)
- Would that have to be double blind? The real issue there is a good sounding hearing aid. nt - Norm 06:17:13 12/04/07 (0)
- Well - unclestu52 01:19:51 12/03/07 (2)
- You should not remove your glasses because... - KlausR. 02:26:48 12/03/07 (1)
- But wouldn't the blindfold - unclestu52 10:49:40 12/03/07 (0)
- RE: Patent - rick_m 20:22:47 12/02/07 (4)
- RE: Patent - unclestu52 20:25:36 12/02/07 (3)
- RE: Patent - rick_m 21:38:35 12/02/07 (2)
- Speakers - unclestu52 22:11:53 12/02/07 (1)
- RE: Speakers - rick_m 23:36:47 12/02/07 (0)
- So you're saying they're system dependent?... - Wellfed 10:01:22 12/02/07 (3)
- No, that's not what I was trying to say. - unclestu52 17:40:11 12/02/07 (2)
- Addendum - unclestu52 17:53:31 12/02/07 (1)
- You are absolutely correct, but don't rile up the natives by admitting to it... - Wellfed 20:29:04 12/02/07 (0)
- RE: Steve Hoffman and Shakti Hallograph, some comments - geoffkait 09:20:55 12/02/07 (16)
- That's rubbish, Geoff! - KlausR. 00:15:57 12/03/07 (15)
- RE: That's rubbish, Geoff! - geoffkait 02:24:27 12/03/07 (14)
- Then why did you mention corners when I'm talking about early reflections? - KlausR. 02:50:50 12/03/07 (13)
- RE: Then why did you mention corners when I'm talking about early reflections? - geoffkait 03:09:31 12/03/07 (12)
- Still, I can't see the connection to early reflections! - KlausR. 03:55:23 12/03/07 (11)
- RE: Still, I can't see the connection to early reflections! - geoffkait 04:59:44 12/03/07 (10)
- RE: I mention room corners because they're frequently overlooked - KlausR. 07:03:14 12/03/07 (9)
- RE: I mention room corners because they're frequently overlooked - geoffkait 07:14:31 12/03/07 (8)
- Still your old habits, I see! - KlausR. 08:29:49 12/03/07 (7)
- Funny! I was about to say the same about you - geoffkait 09:03:01 12/03/07 (6)
- RE: your rant regarding Comb Filter Effect - KlausR. 00:01:21 12/04/07 (5)
- RE: your rant regarding Comb Filter Effect - morricab 03:14:39 12/05/07 (2)
- What's the "venetian blind" effect? - KlausR. 04:42:24 12/05/07 (1)
- RE: What's the "venetian blind" effect? - morricab 01:17:25 12/06/07 (0)
- RE: your rant regarding Comb Filter Effect - geoffkait 00:31:10 12/04/07 (1)
- "cherry-picking of academia" how right you are. nt - Norm 07:45:44 12/04/07 (0)
Follow Ups
- First pair behind speakers. Second behind me on diagonal toward back corner. - Norm 19:50:23 12/02/07 (1)
- First pair behind speakers. - unclestu52 20:06:06 12/02/07 (0)