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In Reply to: RE: Kind of strange all this hand-wringing about really meaningless things, isn't it? What impacts Americans more, posted by tinear on June 29, 2020 at 08:12:48
The CEO of my company is black and a millionaire too.
Salary of $2 million US per year.
He was groomed to replace an older white CEO who retired.
Another unfortunate victim of systemic white racism.
My heart bleeds for this poor man.
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Nice bit of whataboutism.
We have recently promoted a woman to manager of our manufacturing plant in Michigan.
She has ZERO engineering experience and comes from an HR background.
It would have been a brilliant diversity move except for the fact that she is white.
Like it's 4 in the Fortune 500.
Ah, the dangers of a sample of one...
Black people make up a majority of elite athletes. I don't think that this is seen as reverse discrimination by most whites. Blacks do well as entertainers. There are many things that blacks excel at, but if they lag in an area, it's discrimination, or maybe it's not. Maybe it's a viewpoint.
all about ability.
Regarding your point: you do know it always wasn't like that, right? You have heard of the Negro leagues? Jackie Robinson and his heroic struggles? The white SEC and how getting their butts whipped by Minnesota (my alma mater!) who had the terrific QB Sandy Stevens changed its racism?
And in entertainment: you have heard of "black minstrel shows" and "blackface?" And you do know that black stars are a VERY recent Hollywood dynamic?
Employment success is a function of many things, education primarily--- and a color-blind hiring process. African-Americans face hurdles that white folks don't--- though many equally poor whites have special challenges, too (their schools suck, as well). It's the percentages of poverty that make the difference. If you want to investigate how and why black folks have been challenged to reach the American dream, I can help you with that question, too. It's history.
I'm probably older than you are. My college football team was all white. This was about black CEOs of Fortune 500 companies and why they don't have at least 16% black CEOs.
So then you say that sports are all about ability and that's why blacks excel at sports. They are no longer held back because of discrimination in sports. The same world we live in that so readily accepts black athletes because of their superior athletic abilities at some things, discriminates against them in the business world. In business, they are held back because of race. This sounds like discrimination exists only where blacks may not exceed.
treated. Education. Health. Incarceration. We have a lot of work to do. It ain't a zero sum game.Who's to blame for the fact the middle-class hasn't gained any economic ground in 30 years. Black folks? Or is it a collapse of wages? The wealthiest Americans have grown even fatter. For the 50s and part of the 60s, they fattened up more slowly, and everyone profited.
Remember Henry Ford raising his auto workers' wages in what, the 20s? He understood that if he didn't pay higher wages, no one could afford to buy his car--- he made a conscious decision to be an example.
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'He understood that if he didn't pay higher wages, no one could afford to buy his car'
took a big chance on their buying GM eh?
couldn't drive it to work, but still
regards,
That depends on the career field or geographic location.
The company I work for has affirmative action and diversity programs but we end up hiring middle aged white men for most engineering and lab technician positions.
Why?
Because there are a lack of diversity candidates to interview and even fewer that would meet minimum qualifications.
A new generation of minority community activists and protesters will not significantly change anything in regard to hiring for STEM careers, IMO.
I worked for a major oil company most of my career. They hired mostly fresh out of college engineers, geologists, geophysicists etc. The company liked to mold people into the company way. Candidates interviewed had to graduate in the top 10% of their class. We hired many black engineers. Some made it into management as did some women. Everyone was force ranked every year. The bottom 15% of each grade were put on probation at 6 months. The people that couldn't claw their way up were let go. The next year they hired a new batch. The key was NOT to get promoted too quickly. You might not be able to breath the atmosphere at the top. I always felt like it was a horse race.
Good.
Antifa losers should take after the black engineers - get a damn job.
where is this fabulist job of yours?
last that I heard you were 'on the line' awaiting a promo to fast food management so that you could afford your ammosexual lifestyle
be well,
"last that I heard you were 'on the line' awaiting a promo to fast food management so that you could afford your ammosexual lifestyle"
That sounds like something members of the John Brown Gun Club are into after range days.
'This sounds like discrimination exists'
right there! 100% accuracy!
'only where blacks may not exceed'
oops
be well,
if it's for whites, it's okay. Same for the Senate: teenie little states get as much of a voice as giants CA, TX, and FL.
"Some of the greatest baseball players in major league history were African-American: Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Bob Gibson and Reggie Jackson. But today, sports journalists, players and others have asked, "Where are all of the black baseball players?"
'success is a function of many things, education primarily'
check the link, a pretty solid opinion piece
with regards,
'Maybe it's a viewpoint' ... here's the one in Phuket:
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