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RE: Fair points.

You missed what I was trying to get at regarding turning up the volume up a few db. Let me attempt to be just a bit more clear :-)

In real world listening, the volume level can be and often is adjusted during listening. What I have found is that some systems tend to "fall apart" when the volume is raised. I'm not talking about ear splitting levels either. Take any symphony with large dynamic contrasts, conduct the ABX/DBT at THOSE levels that get close to live, and voila, it becomes more likely that some deltas will occur. So, what is causing the delta? It's not easy to sort that out. The gear being evaluated needs to be considered as entire system. I do think ABX/DBT can be useful for engineers looking to evaluate their designs, but as far as end user comparisons go, do not think they are all that helpful.

I read this thread in total. A lot of disagreement, some good observations, and some food for thought. The more I read about all the issues brought up here, the more I'm convinced that the integrated solutions such as those offered by the Devialet Expert Pro series makes a lot of sense for many. Everything is already included in one or two boxes for stereo, minimal cables required, built in DSP for speaker bass management for supported speakers. One would have to test the ABX/DBT as an entire system for any meaningful results. Going forward, as more all in one solutions come to market, some with built in DSP, comparing and evaluation gets a lot more tricky.

Quick note on Chord DACs: They are not coloured. They have better filtering over off the shelf DAC's, which improves time/domain and transient response.
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