In Reply to: No. The conditions are accurate. posted by Freo-1 on October 23, 2023 at 09:56:51:
>>> You don't like it because it happens to be valid.>>>
No, it's not valid at all. It is a total red herring.
>>> The listening room IS perhaps the single largest variable in a listening session.>>>
Only if you introduce it as a variable. I'll try to walk you through this one more time. *IF* someone claims to hear a difference and that claim is challenged we can test *THAT SPECIFIC CLAIM* using an ABX DBT in EXACTLY the same environment, system, source material and listeners where the original claim of an audible difference was made. There is NO REASON to introduce any added variables to test any specific claim of an audible difference.
>>>Take two identical system components setup, put them in different listening environments, and one will have completely different results. That's the nature of physics.>>>
And what does that have to do with ABX DBT? That's true under sighted conditions. Why would you try to introduce this variable when you can simply test the claim without changing any of the conditions under which the alleged difference was heard to begin with?
>>> Everyone's hearing IS different. Again, that's physics. On any given day, the hearing could be impacted by a number of variables, not the least of which a cold/flu, which often causes fluid in the sinus, thus impacting the hearing.>>>
Again with a bunch of excuses. None of the above has ANYTHING to do with ABX. If you have acold or the flu don't do the test! How is that not obvious. You don't have to change anything to do an ABX DBT! You don't have to change listeners, you don't have to get a cold or the flu or introduce ANY OTHER VARIABLES! Just do an ABX DBT under the same EXACT conditions under which the alleged difference was heard. Period. End of story.
>>>You can argue until you are blue in the face, but it will not change people's real world experience. The best way to judge playback is with one's own setup in one's listening environment. Nothing will change that.>>>
GREAT!!! Don't change anything!!! Just do an ABX DBT in one's own set up and listening environment!!! That's what I said in the first place. No reason to add arbitrary variables.
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- No, you are trying to add unnecessary conditions to try to sabotage ABX - Analog Scott 11:35:04 10/23/23 (23)
- Obfuscate, equivocate, hedge, muddle, dodge, stall. ~:) As I noted below... - regmac 07:08:47 10/24/23 (22)
- "As you noted before" - Analog Scott 10:28:05 10/24/23 (0)
- Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Freo-1 08:42:26 10/24/23 (20)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Inmate51 12:33:23 10/24/23 (18)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Analog Scott 15:34:53 10/24/23 (6)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Tre' 06:20:05 10/25/23 (5)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Analog Scott 06:57:58 10/25/23 (4)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Tre' 09:56:40 10/25/23 (0)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Inmate51 08:55:38 10/25/23 (1)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Analog Scott 09:51:26 10/25/23 (0)
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- Fair points. - Freo-1 14:22:36 10/24/23 (10)
- RE: Fair points. - Analog Scott 15:41:52 10/24/23 (9)
- RE: Fair points. - Freo-1 16:57:42 10/24/23 (8)
- RE: Fair points. - Analog Scott 17:25:37 10/24/23 (7)
- RE: Fair points. - Freo-1 09:05:22 10/25/23 (6)
- RE: Fair points. - Analog Scott 10:12:01 10/25/23 (4)
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- RE: Fair points. - Inmate51 09:24:28 10/25/23 (0)
- RE: Sounds like BS dogma to me.. - Analog Scott 10:09:40 10/24/23 (0)