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In Reply to: Valid Studies posted by jj on July 27, 1999 at 22:23:47:
jj, whose talking about preferences? The issue, as i understand it, is whether or not listeners can hear differences between among audio gear. Stated differently, using scientific methods can it be demonstrated that listeners can reliably discriminate between/among gear?Preferences, broadly defined to include value or preference judgments based upon non-auditory information (look & feel) is, or should be, considered totally irrelevant. Preferences, based upon individual differences in taste, with respect to aural presentations that vary as a function of different gear is what should be the focus of the debate.
The formulation or expression of a preference, as that term is more narrowly defined, presupposes a detectable difference. You can not have such a preference without perceiving differences.
Preferences, just like differences, can be empirically measured. But just as "perceived differences" are a predicate to "preferences," we should focus on the measurement of audible differences, and the factors that go into validly measuring such differences, before becoming overly worried or concerned about "preferences."
Here's an idea. Let's assume that a group of listeners are investigated as to their abilities to perceive differences. Let's further assume that all conceivable non-auditory information correlated with the components/wires being tested are effectively concealed from the listeners--thus, the only information available to listeners for basing their discriminative judgments is the music. What and how do we measure? Do we want/need to know anything about the listeners taking part in the study? What is the stimulus? Does the experimenter have any control at all over the stimulus? If no, what must/should be done to control for that (if you indeed agree that this needs to be controlled)? Can you think of any other factors/variables that must be considered/controlled for? Just food for thought.
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Follow Ups
- Re: What Valid Studies? - jfp 20:55:23 07/28/99 (5)
- Um, you can't judge preference - jj 08:04:17 07/29/99 (4)
- Re: Um, you can't judge preference - jfp 10:13:39 07/29/99 (3)
- JFP RESORTS TO MISSTATING POSITIONS AGAIN - jj 12:42:26 07/29/99 (2)
- Re: JJ CRIES FOUL--AGAIN! - jfp 14:07:41 07/29/99 (1)
- If you don't like it, stop mis-stating my positions - jj 19:01:40 07/29/99 (0)
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