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These AC Receptacles and plugs are similar in spec, but can anyone give a good comparison in how they perform/sound?
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I can't offer a comparative evaluation since my experience is only of the two Oyaide models of the four gold plated models mentioned.I've recently become familiar with the gold plated Oyaide SWO-GX AC outlet, but I don't have direct experience of the gold plated Furutech FP-15(G) AC outlet, only the copper plated Furutech FP-15(Cu) AC outlet. While both Oyaide and Furutech implement a phosphor bronze base metal for their AC outlets, the body and contact designs are different, with the Oyaide seemingly having a more robust feel and a single termination screw per polarity vs. the Furutech split duplex capable design being most notable.
I'm very familiar with the Oyaide P-079 AC plug, but I don't have direct experience of Furutech's FI-25 line of AC connectors (only the FI-11 and FI-15 lines).
Chris VenHaus at VH Audio may be able to offer insight into the sonic difference between the gold plated Furutech's vs. the gold plated Oyaide's:
info@vhaudio.com
I posted a similar question over in the tweaker's asylum. I recently tried the Furutech FI-25R Rhodium/silver connectors, which replaced Oyaide O37's. The Furutech's aren't burned-in yet, but they're already better that the Oyaide's. The Furutech's have better top-octave extension, and less stridency and glare in the upper mids/low treble than the Oyaide's. Don't get me wrong, I'm being very picky here, and I lived with the Oyaide's for awhile, so they're certainly very good, but the FI-25's are just more natural and organic in my system. I know some folks find the Rhodium/silver connectors to be too forward, but in my system, which is very powerful, and tends to really energize the room in the bass and mids, these connectors really sound terrific. The Furutechs made enough of an improvement that I'm experimenting with removing my (only) power conditioner, which feeds my transport-DSP-DAC front end. Right now, it's still a little bit much without conditioning, but as the Furutech's break in, they may mellow a bit.
I'd also like to comment on the quality of the Furutech's vs. the Oyaides. While both the Oyaides and Furutechs are polished to a jewelry-like finish, the surface of the blades on the Furutech's is much smoother than the Oyaide male connector. The Oyaide has several 'ripples' that look like poor plating, and would seem to compromise it's contact surface. The Furutech is perfectly smooth, with a mirror finish. I never looked that closely at the 079's when I had them, so I can't say if they had any rippling at all. Anybody else notice this?
Anyhow, my guess is the Oyaides probably match up better with a softer/less resolving system, while the Furutechs work wonders with a high-res, warts-and-all setup.
JMO.
After posting my comments about the 'rippling' of the surface finish on the Oyaide AC connector blades, I took another quick look at them to make sure I wasn't overstating the issue. After looking very closely at them, I'd say 'rippling' in the plating isn't a very precise description. I'd say it's more of an 'orangepeel' effect, similar to a poor paint job on a car. I'm not sure what effect if any this has on the sound of the connector, so feel free to take my description with a grain of salt.
Hi Wayne,If your P-037 was purchased through an Oyaide dealer it should be sent back for exchange since there is no reason to accept a flawed Oyaide AC plug (it should look perfect). My Oyaide P-037, P-046, and P-079 AC plugs all have a perfect mirror finish, which is Oyaide's specialty. It's very perplexing to me that a bad plating/polishing job could ever get past Oyaide's quality control criteria (unthinkable :-).
I don't question the veracity of your information, but I'm just wondering... if by 'orangepeel' effect you mean dimpling that looks a bit like an orange peel's surface, that description fits what the infamous counterfiet "fake Oyaide P-037" as found on eBay (unpolished blades and inferior sounding) looked like...
Best Regards, Duster
Duster: The Oyaide in question is the real deal without doubt. Purchased directly by me from a merchant who is a dealer for Oyaide. I'm wondering, if anyone here besides me is currently using the 037, and perhaps they could take a close look and tell us if this is common to their connector as well. As I said earlier, I don't remember if the 079's I had featured the same flaw, but I'll say they didn't because I didn't notice it at the time. Perhaps Oyaide's plating process doesn't work as well with the much 'harder' Rhodium finish?
My Oyaide connectors (they are European Schuko) are absolutely perfect. I have never seen any with the problems you described and I tried (have) quite a few different one. I like them really much.
As mentioned in the previous post, my Oyaide P-037's finish is as pristine as my P-046's and P-079's finish, so I find it peculiar that your P-037 is flawed as described unless it's a defective unit. As far as the comparative performance of the plugs in question, I don't think it's a matter of Oyaide making an inferior product to Furutech... I think you simply prefer the rhodium Furutech's presentation over the rhodium Oyaide's presentation, as I know of other folks who also agree with your comparative observations and personal opinion. You might consider sending your P-037 to Joseph Cohen at the Lotus Group (Oyaide's US distributor) for inspection and possible exchange. Cheerssee link:
Duster, that all goes without saying, except that between us, we have two examples. I was wondering if anyone else had the 037's, and what they looked like. With only two examples, either one could be typical.
Being a dealer for Oyaide since US inception, I have ordered and custom-built many dozens of power cables along with receiving a like number of 037 connectors (and 046's and 079's). I have not seen *one* example with anything other than a smooth, mirror-like finish (as Duster described). I know this to be true as I pre-condition each and every cable (prior to customer shipment), then inspect and bubble-wrap each connector prior to shipment.I would definitely return the 037 to your dealer for a new one. The finish you describe is *not* the norm and is an anomoly. One of the primary reasons I chose Oyaide was because of their superior QC and finish.
Well, you may not have seen *one*, but you've now heard of *one*. If I could capture it with the macro on my camera, I'd take a pic for you all, so that you don't doubt my veracity, or think I have some agenda for simply stating a fact.
....your word is good enough for me. With large-scale production, it's always possible for that *one* to escape quality control final inspection. After all, we're only human.Again, get it exchanged for a proper one. If you were my customer, I would do so without question.
Thanks Alan. I'm half-tempted to get another connector, and compare it to the 'flawed' one, just to see if I can hear a difference. But then there's burn-in, and reterminating, and yada, yada, yada. Although I'd really like to determine for myself if the smoothness of the plating really makes a difference, just for my own audio education.
Man, what a geek I am. ;)
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