RE: You've Lost The BIG Picture Though... This Is A Hobby!

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Topic - Why Do You Believe Audio Equipment "Sounds Better" After It's Warmed Up? - thetubeguy1954 08:38:31 05/02/08 (112)

Why is it so important for audiophiles to "Believe in" things & so unimportant to experiment and learn the truth? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:57:51 05/14/08 (0)

An example of class AB bipolar power amps - andy_c 09:55:53 05/04/08 (10)

RE: Optimum bias point? - rick_m 16:57:18 05/04/08 (5)

RE: Optimum bias point? - andy_c 17:33:34 05/04/08 (4)

RE: Optimum bias point? - rick_m 20:13:38 05/04/08 (3)

Yet another way of looking at it... - andy_c 21:17:32 05/04/08 (2)

RE: Yet another way of looking at it... - rick_m 17:41:03 05/10/08 (1)

RE: Yet another way of looking at it... - andy_c 18:28:09 05/10/08 (0)

RE: An example of class AB bipolar power amps - Ugly 10:31:32 05/04/08 (3)

RE: An example of class AB bipolar power amps - andy_c 10:59:50 05/04/08 (2)

Ahh, makes sense. Thanks. n/t - Ugly 11:54:09 05/04/08 (1)

Here's an IC designed for that purpose - andy_c 12:42:50 05/04/08 (0)

I think tube amps sound best when running cooler. - jon_s 18:24:22 05/02/08 (3)

A decebt music session can take a few hours. - cheap-Jack 08:13:19 05/05/08 (2)

RE: A decebt music session can take a few hours. - jon_s 15:44:25 05/05/08 (0)

Correction: it should read "a decent music session" (nt) - cheap-Jack 08:15:14 05/05/08 (0)

System stabilizes more closely to designed point. ~t - mpathus 17:51:17 05/02/08 (1)

Yes, however designers are also divided on this topic. -nt - soulfood 06:24:50 05/04/08 (0)

RE: Why Do You Believe Audio Equipment "Sounds Better" After It's Warmed Up? - Ugly 12:57:58 05/02/08 (2)

Nice answer. Kudos. - Enophile 15:21:31 05/02/08 (1)

Thanks. - Ugly 16:49:22 05/03/08 (0)

Seems to me - unclestu52 12:52:53 05/02/08 (0)

"Warming up gear" is an overgeneralization. - Presto 12:38:47 05/02/08 (66)

RE: "Warming up gear" is an overgeneralization. - thetubeguy1954 14:51:40 05/04/08 (2)

RE: "Warming up gear" is an overgeneralization. - Presto 10:31:17 05/05/08 (1)

No Problem Presto (nt) - thetubeguy1954 19:15:50 05/05/08 (0)

That has NOT been my experience - E-Stat 15:32:59 05/02/08 (62)

My question is, once warm, does the 845 sound more like a Marshall...or a Fender? - AJinFLA 18:19:46 05/04/08 (36)

A real loony article. - rick_m 08:51:12 05/07/08 (0)

It just amazes me that you use so many words to say something as simple as: - carcass93 10:40:31 05/05/08 (2)

RE: It just amazes me that you use so many words to say something as simple as: - thetubeguy1954 06:22:14 05/08/08 (0)

Its even more amazing that a dead person can type, much less be so ashamed - AJinFLA 19:03:34 05/05/08 (0)

By all means ponder the question in the sanctity of your own lab - E-Stat 06:10:19 05/05/08 (31)

Umm, this is my lab - AJinFLA 18:59:36 05/05/08 (30)

Accuracy of the op-ed piece? - E-Stat 19:34:28 05/05/08 (29)

Why not state specifically what you disagree with? - AJinFLA 03:59:01 05/06/08 (28)

Regarding myself - E-Stat 06:29:47 05/06/08 (27)

I have my own theories about "audiophilia"... - Presto 11:56:41 05/06/08 (26)

Excellent Question Presto, Here's The Answer! - thetubeguy1954 08:47:37 05/07/08 (21)

Um no. - Analog Scott 01:11:07 05/09/08 (5)

RE: Um no. - thetubeguy1954 08:46:40 05/13/08 (1)

RE: Um no. - Analog Scott 16:07:45 05/14/08 (0)

Not even AJ will call you dellusional for claiming to hear imaging - AJinFLA 03:50:38 05/09/08 (2)

RE: Not even AJ will call you dellusional for claiming to hear imaging - Analog Scott 07:12:31 05/09/08 (1)

See This Verifies What I've Been Saying! - thetubeguy1954 09:00:47 05/13/08 (0)

The answer is simple. - Presto 23:02:56 05/07/08 (14)

"Why do objectivists attack? One word: semantics" - Analog Scott 01:14:25 05/09/08 (2)

You're proving yourself to be a tenacious little troll, you are! (nt) - Presto 18:06:38 05/09/08 (1)

A well reasoned supported retort to all my points - Analog Scott 01:53:12 05/10/08 (0)

You've Lost The BIG Picture Though... This Is A Hobby! - thetubeguy1954 10:28:37 05/08/08 (10)

RE: You've Lost The BIG Picture Though... This Is A Hobby! - Analog Scott 01:19:23 05/09/08 (8)

RE: You've Lost The BIG Picture Though... This Is A Hobby! - Ugly 20:10:37 05/11/08 (7)

"Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 05:02:45 05/12/08 (6)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Ugly 14:10:22 05/12/08 (5)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 14:40:48 05/12/08 (4)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Ugly 15:25:55 05/12/08 (3)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 18:11:43 05/12/08 (2)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Ugly 19:32:35 05/12/08 (1)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 21:20:00 05/12/08 (0)

Which really only means... - kerr 11:37:42 05/08/08 (0)

Thanks for a thoughtful post - E-Stat 13:22:01 05/06/08 (3)

You hit one nail square on the head... - Presto 17:45:07 05/06/08 (2)

Well, that was a quote from SM - E-Stat 18:22:43 05/06/08 (1)

Yeah, and designers don't always do things the same way. - Presto 17:01:22 05/07/08 (0)

RE: You are both right. - rick_m 18:03:23 05/02/08 (2)

Your Honesty Is Very Refreshing - thetubeguy1954 15:06:10 05/04/08 (0)

Interesting... - mpathus 20:52:47 05/02/08 (0)

Well, perhaps not minutes... - Presto 16:52:31 05/02/08 (1)

Gotcha -nt - E-Stat 16:58:32 05/02/08 (0)

But you use tubes!!!! - Pat D 16:44:40 05/02/08 (19)

A friend - unclestu52 18:27:47 05/02/08 (1)

RE: A friend - Pat D 18:11:46 05/05/08 (0)

Let me repeat an earlier point - E-Stat 16:58:03 05/02/08 (14)

RE: Let me repeat an earlier point - Pat D 06:55:43 05/03/08 (13)

Audibility - rick_m 09:10:55 05/03/08 (0)

What is ambiguous - E-Stat 07:09:16 05/03/08 (11)

I'll take that as a "No," that Pass doesn't have audibility data. - Pat D 17:02:57 05/03/08 (10)

Pomposity is really not necessary - E-Stat 19:13:43 05/03/08 (9)

You imply I made a universal assertion and whine when I point out that I did not. - Pat D 18:23:10 05/05/08 (8)

Actually - E-Stat 18:53:58 05/05/08 (7)

RE: Actually - Pat D 15:51:40 05/06/08 (6)

Easy - E-Stat 16:08:03 05/06/08 (5)

RE: Easy - andy_c 19:38:14 05/08/08 (4)

Please read this sentence again - E-Stat 05:47:13 05/09/08 (3)

Actually it's two sentences and the reference isn't all that clear. (nt) - Pat D 19:45:43 05/09/08 (2)

It was the ONE sentence that apparently eluded you - E-Stat 07:08:28 05/10/08 (1)

RE: It was the ONE sentence that apparently eluded you - Pat D 06:40:19 05/17/08 (0)

RE: But you use tubes!!!! - Analog Scott 16:47:08 05/02/08 (1)

RE: But you use tubes!!!! - thetubeguy1954 08:09:49 05/04/08 (0)

It sounds worse! That's why I REFUSE to warm up my equipment - Richard BassNut Greene 09:59:20 05/02/08 (4)

"This effect probably differs among audiophiles" yes some can hear. nt - Norm 10:44:47 05/05/08 (3)

You mean some believe in it and others don't? Believing in something doesn't make it correct! (NT) - Richard BassNut Greene 10:35:10 05/06/08 (2)

But your dissatisfaction with other's proof also doesn't mean they are incorrect. nt - Norm 14:50:48 05/07/08 (1)

I know what I hear and couldn't be wrong is proof of nothing and equivalent to - Richard BassNut Greene 09:00:43 05/14/08 (0)

You're talking about "warm up" or 'breaking-in' or both? - cheap-Jack 09:00:16 05/02/08 (0)

What's belief got to do with it? nt - clarkjohnsen 08:40:37 05/02/08 (16)

I Know It's A Shame Clark But... - thetubeguy1954 09:58:11 05/02/08 (15)

RE: I Know It's A Shame Clark But... - theaudiohobby 15:27:11 05/03/08 (2)

Actually Hobby - thetubeguy1954 15:22:51 05/04/08 (1)

RE: Actually Hobby - theaudiohobby 10:53:39 05/05/08 (0)

Since you use a tube amp, Tom . . . - Pat D 16:53:52 05/02/08 (2)

RE: Since you use a tube amp, Tom . . . - thetubeguy1954 08:19:26 05/04/08 (1)

Note: I agreed with Tom that his tube amp may well sound different cold and warm! - Pat D 18:42:19 05/05/08 (0)

I need proof...... no I demand proof ! - Richard BassNut Greene 12:55:07 05/02/08 (8)

Stop already! - kerr 13:46:55 05/02/08 (7)

Hmmmmm.... - Presto 17:06:20 05/05/08 (6)

RE: Hmmmmm.... - kerr 04:18:21 05/06/08 (4)

DBT? I thought... - Presto 12:23:46 05/06/08 (1)

You should think twice about... - kerr 17:33:00 05/06/08 (0)

My posts are serious, not funny - Richard BassNut Greene 10:31:14 05/06/08 (1)

Are you on drugs? - kerr 17:23:16 05/06/08 (0)

RE: Hmmmmm.... - weltersys 00:32:31 05/06/08 (0)

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RE: You've Lost The BIG Picture Though... This Is A Hobby! - Ugly 20:10:37 05/11/08 (7)

"Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 05:02:45 05/12/08 (6)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Ugly 14:10:22 05/12/08 (5)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 14:40:48 05/12/08 (4)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Ugly 15:25:55 05/12/08 (3)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 18:11:43 05/12/08 (2)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Ugly 19:32:35 05/12/08 (1)

RE: "Someone trying to get some real work done might get annoyed by this " - Analog Scott 21:20:00 05/12/08 (0)

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