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In Reply to: A candid exchange with John Atkinson: posted by regmac on March 8, 2004 at 08:32:08:
Is it really that much fun telling people they're actually not hearing what they hear? Honestly, I don't understand what exactly you hope to accomplish.If not would you be kind enough to offer some player(s) in the mid-fi area, and associated software, that you think offer an audible improvement over the CD version?Haven't we grown sick of this yet? There's no point in posting any more examples for comparison. Plenty have been offered. One person says they hear an improvement on album A, track B. Another says they hear no difference. Who is right? They both are - they simply hear what they hear.
When pressed on the credibility issue, the SACD crowd's complaint always goes something like this: "Why should the burden of proof be placed upon us?!" To which the correct response is, because it's dreadfully difficult to disprove a negative: Do you still beat your dog? If I say I hear no difference between the two formats and someone else insists he does, then it's up to the fellow making the positive assertion to prove his case by identifying his preferred format in a blind test.As if SACD listeners are somehow obligated to waste their time trying to convince you...
But until a credible journal of audio opinion, such as Stereophile, steps up to the plate and organizes a formal test setting in which certain claims can be objectively evaluated, I'm afraid the SACD camp and others like it, will enjoy about as much credibility as The Flat Earth Society. It's not enough to talk a good game, sooner or later one must step up to the plate and hit the ball.OK, suppose Stereophile does arrange such a thing. I personally think it would be an interesting read, but I don't see how it will change anything.
If the results demonstrate that the subjects could identify SACD tracks from CD tracks in properly level matched double blind tests, are you suddenly going to start hearing a difference where you previously could not? Are you going to buy SACDs anyway even though you don't hear a difference, just because a blind test demonstrated that some other people could hear it? Or on the other hand, if the results show the subjects could not reliably discriminate between CDs and SACDs, do you expect I will suddenly stop hearing something or that I will try to talk myself into believing I'm not hearing it?
Besides, no matter the outcome, there will be lots of poeple poking holes in the validity of the test and offering rebuttals. In the end nothing will have been proved. I've read of blind tests where people couldn't tell the difference between 128k MP3 and CD. What exactly does that prove? And if you're such a believer in blind tests, why do you even have a CD player if MP3 is good enough?
Dave
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- Why bother? - Dave Kingsland 13:06:48 03/08/04 (1)
- Amen [nt] - Ted Smith 17:25:56 03/08/04 (0)
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