In Reply to: Where did you buy the keyboard that generates teflon type? posted by E-Stat on October 15, 2007 at 14:03:22:
You have cited specs, not measurements. If you can hear a difference, then there should be measurable differences to account for it. The following is a falsifiable statement, per Karl Popper, but you have hardly done anything at all to disprove it.
"all amplifiers having high input impedance, low output impedance, flat frequency response, low distortion, and low noise floor sound exactly the same when operated at matched levels and not clipped."
If the owners of Crown electronics of that vintage know what you're talking about, then some of them, at least, should know technically what is happening. You evidently don't so you're hardly in a position to decide whether Aczel is refuted or not.
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Follow Ups
- I'm waiting for a falsification of Aczel's statement. - Pat D 17:58:37 10/15/07 (48)
- How silly of me! - E-Stat 06:19:10 10/16/07 (47)
- RE: How silly of me! - theaudiohobby 06:50:20 10/16/07 (46)
- RE: How silly of me! - Pat D 12:27:36 10/16/07 (3)
- You're not silly at all - kerr 17:55:43 10/16/07 (2)
- RE: You're not silly at all - Pat D 18:15:33 10/16/07 (1)
- RE: You're not silly at all - kerr 18:33:00 10/16/07 (0)
- Measurements are not specifications and vice versa. - E-Stat 07:21:26 10/16/07 (41)
- Yeah, but just keep repeating specs! - Pat D 12:05:59 10/16/07 (11)
- What are specifications anyway? - E-Stat 12:41:39 10/16/07 (10)
- Ah well, we have slight progress, possibly unconscious. - Pat D 14:15:14 10/16/07 (9)
- Yes. You answered a question I didn't ask, but failed to answer the five I did - E-Stat 14:30:32 10/16/07 (8)
- If you want to know what Peter Aczel means, ask him. - Pat D 18:11:32 10/16/07 (7)
- "I don't speak for him" - E-Stat 19:30:23 10/16/07 (6)
- If it measures good and sounds bad, you're not measuring the right things. - Pat D 07:11:16 10/17/07 (5)
- You are the daily winner! - E-Stat 07:16:03 10/17/07 (4)
- .... AND ... - bjh 08:48:39 10/17/07 (3)
- Well, since some forget the basics, I sometimes call attention to them. - Pat D 13:24:57 10/17/07 (2)
- I can't argue with you Pat... - bjh 05:57:00 10/18/07 (1)
- RE: I can't argue with you Pat... - Pat D 08:38:45 10/18/07 (0)
- Let's count the posts... - kerr 07:49:02 10/16/07 (28)
- Refuted, but still debated. - Ozzie 17:25:15 10/16/07 (17)
- you're right - truthseekerprime 20:29:57 10/16/07 (4)
- A speaker manufacturer - E-Stat 05:05:46 10/17/07 (2)
- Well, yeah - but he's not a speaker manufacturer exactly, more of a designer. See link. - truthseekerprime 22:00:53 10/18/07 (1)
- Thanks, but I've seen his company's website (nt) - E-Stat 05:53:30 10/19/07 (0)
- Interesting - kerr 04:23:58 10/17/07 (0)
- RE: Refuted, but still debated. - kerr 17:51:38 10/16/07 (11)
- RE: "Sound quality isn't a big deal to him..." - tlyyra 09:07:32 10/17/07 (10)
- RE: "Sound quality isn't a big deal to him..." - kerr 10:38:58 10/17/07 (0)
- Nor is "pride of ownership" important to HP - E-Stat 09:38:22 10/17/07 (8)
- RE: "So what?" - tlyyra 10:13:34 10/17/07 (7)
- Not at all - E-Stat 10:58:10 10/17/07 (6)
- And what about Vadseth! - tlyyra 11:33:40 10/17/07 (5)
- I'm not trying to draw any distinctions whatsoever - E-Stat 11:48:37 10/17/07 (4)
- Maybe you are a bit dyslexic. - tlyyra 11:57:33 10/17/07 (3)
- Must be a language barrier here - E-Stat 12:15:57 10/17/07 (2)
- That much is clear already. - tlyyra 13:32:40 10/17/07 (1)
- In that case - E-Stat 13:52:40 10/17/07 (0)
- To tell you the truth - E-Stat 07:51:47 10/16/07 (9)
- I found the Edge amps to be lifeless and sterile. - Ozzie 17:44:02 10/16/07 (1)
- The system in which I heard them - E-Stat 19:23:01 10/16/07 (0)
- I'm just curious - kerr 09:36:41 10/16/07 (6)
- I just hate it when I'm right :) - E-Stat 10:20:47 10/16/07 (5)
- Both the Stasis and Crown were at least double the $$$ of the Crown. - Ozzie 17:58:46 10/16/07 (4)
- Double? - E-Stat 19:58:00 10/16/07 (3)
- But cost doesn't matter in this particular debate - kerr 04:28:56 10/17/07 (2)
- I was just correcting his statement - E-Stat 05:10:22 10/17/07 (1)
- Good to know that... - kerr 09:05:02 10/17/07 (0)