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In Reply to: RE: Are you the one that sells the wood bodies for Denon Cartridges? posted by eso on December 22, 2007 at 07:48:16
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to answer your question without breaking the rules.
Follow Ups:
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exactly how did his posts contravene any of the rules?
and by posing as merely a garden variety audiophile in this thread he is essentially shilling his own product.
You don't see a conflict with a person that manufactures wooden bodies for Denon cartridges pointing out that a higher priced item that is available is essentially what he sells? And pointing this out in the guise of a disinterested 3rd party audiophile does not seem a bit disingenuous from one that actually has a vested interest in exposing another company's version of his own product?
eso
Well, yes, you are correct in that Uwe should re-register as a manufacturer. I've noticed he hasn't been posting here for quite a while and now that has been pointed out, I'm sure he'll do that.
As to your other points, the Clearaudio is a fully finished product, which is a far cry from what Uwe is selling (and a far cry price wise from what he is selling I might also add). I for one appreciate the info relative to the Talisman being 103 based and others might as well and that info was provided without any "shilling" as far as I'm concerned and I think if you look at the history of Uwe's posts in the asylum it is a severe stretch to say that he has ever "shilled" his product here. But you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
I think Uwe provided a useful and very relevant information that really should have been in the original review, but perhaps the reviewer was not aware of the provenance of the Talisman. True, Uwe did not mention his conflict of interest, but neither did he make any pejorative comments on the Talisman. I'm glad he posted.
He did the board a great service...but then again certain people may not want to hear that the Clearaudio is a re-badged and wooded 103. After all, they just lost a few bucks on the deal.
Uwe's post helps other buyers not make the same mistake.
Pat O'Malley
Not an expert .. just an enthusiast.
Hey Pat,
Happy holidays to you and your family from the joeljoel1947 clan!!!
Regards,
Joel
You can't hide it when you're having fun, can you?
Pat O'Malley
Not an expert .. just an enthusiast.
Like you, I'm a "straight shooter with upper management potential".
--Office Space
Be good Pat!
Regards,
Joel
I've been very interested in Uwe's work, and the fact that he changed his registration so quickly says a great deal about his character.However, in the context of this thread his remarks posted as an apparently disinterested 3rd party audiophile were highly disingenuous. For the last several weeks there have been a great many posts touting his products, including links to find them.
Sure, Clearaudio stands to lose a great deal by having this information about their re-bodying and re-badging a cartridge widely known. Conversely, Uwe stands to increase his sales by a significant margin for the same reason. The fact that he was the one who brought that fact up reeks of self-interest.
By being registered as a manufacturer any possible conflict of interest is readily apparent.
eso
"Sure, Clearaudio stands to lose a great deal by having this information about their re-bodying and re-badging a cartridge widely known."
Clearaudio never hid the fact that it is a DL-103. And I doubt they will lose anything. The people who buy Clearaudio carts are not the same as those who buy the DL-103.
I don't remember Uwe ever shilled his product and I had to search him out to get one back when.the only people who have been touting his products is "US", meaning the we who bought and have been using them.
eso is painting the wrong picture, but the people who buy from Uwe will not be influenced by eso's posts so I guess it is a wash all around.
Pat O'Malley
Not an expert .. just an enthusiast.
By doing what?
By not registering as an industry professional. In the context of this thread you are pointing out that a product is in realty a cartridge that has been re-bodied with an ebony body. You provide wood bodies for the same cartridge, so pointing this out could easily increase your sales as I'm sure you are aware and possibly even counting on.
And the reference to the poster above is rather cryptic. Is he to be expecting one of your products?
eso
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