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RE: 45 and 5K loads.

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In Reply to: RE: 45 and 5K loads. posted by RC Daniel on January 28, 2010 at 01:54:55

Hi Raymond,

You state:

"Why do folks feel the only acceptable O.P. for the 45 is 35mA, 275V and a 5k load? Oh, maximum power."

I am surely not one of those folks. That is 9.65 Watts dissipation of the plate. In 2010, I would shoot for about 7 Watts dissipation, maybe 250 VDC P-K and 0.028 A.

My interest is not in just what works, but what works and likely sounds the best, on a long term basis, and there are usually not muliple optimums.

You state:

"It is your assumptions and rationale I do not accept. Though I do prefer to question..."

We all have a right to accept or not. That is totally fine with me. As to you questioning ....it is difficult for me to get into a serious conversation, after reading the quote you selected!

Jeff Medwin

"My child was awarded Detainee of the Month at our State Correctional Facility", Anon. (Bumper sticker I saw in mid-Missouri, last month.)

Follow Ups:

RE: 45 and 5K loads. - Qman 08:12:03 02/01/10 (0)
Spoke with Don. Besides switching to 5K tranny's Don said the only other thing to do to the X is add a 47 ohm 10W dropping resistor to the B+ supply.
RE: 45 and 5K loads. - RC Daniel 20:18:28 01/28/10 (4)
*** As to you questioning ....it is difficult for me to get into a serious conversation, after reading the quote you selected! ***
I am not sure what you mean by that Jeff. That is, what have you interpreted the quote the mean and why should that prevent "serious conversation". Care to share why? Perhaps my post linked below may explain more clearly my current take on that quote (in part). You seem have had no difficuly with a �serious conversation� when I was interested in your claims, defended the relevance of your posts, or positively discussed a product you were selling. Now that I call you on something, that seems to have changed.
As for my previous post, I was a little tired and cynical, and somewhat cranky. Not a part of my self that I am proud of. The section of my post that was most relevant to your post was the first part, which you only vaguely responded to (interesting). The parts of my post you quoted and for which you reserved direct responses were not specifically relevant to your post, but were responded to as if they were.
Perhaps I could have been clearer and/or should have made the "Why do folks..." question a new para to prevent confusion. However, this may not have helped in your case. You repeatedly demonstrate an interesting selectiveness in what you respond to, often seeming to avoid the general intention or main point of a post. That, or responding with minimal relevance.
Perhaps you like your hammer so much you either a) mainly see the nails, and/or b) perceive most problems to be nails.
Cheers
Raymond
Edit (prior to replies): attempted to significantly clarify my points in an effort to prevent misinterpretation; delete some repetitive comments; and add one point.

�We must have concepts in order to function; they are not the problem. The problem is created when we believe they are the truth... Our suffering is rooted in a false sense of self, a self composed of concepts.� Charlotte Joko Beck
- Post about conceptualisation. (Open in New Window)
Edits: 01/28/10 01/28/10
- Post on Concepts good...Jeff please try to understand RC Daniel quote... - Minussss3db 14:17:15 01/29/10 (3)
  ...there is a lot of meat in it...because people have a lot of suffering particulrily caused by their concepts....
  
  The Nature of REality is beyond concepts....
  
  this does not mean concepts are not useful...it is just that our concepts cannot actually define reality...they also fail because they are not reality....concepts are our mental notions of reality...
  
  So concepts being loosely held is good...because our concepts are always being redefined by reality....
  
  and this is where I do agree with you about working by experience.(I think you and I actually agree about wire also ..hehe)..actual Experience with a capital E... will always take you beyond your concept , or beyond your latest concept...
  
  Hilbert and his opponents developed a clear proof on this...basically all 'languaged' systems will always fail because of internal inconsistencies...which will always always occur in all 'Languaged' systems: they proved this...they were mostly referring to the language of mathematics...but it applies to all systems...one of their most interesting proofs was to prove through the inconsistencies in Euclidian geometry... that All triangles are isoceles....they validly proved this.
  
  thanks and peace,
  -3db
  - Your explanation is much more elegant... - RC Daniel 16:28:05 01/29/10 (2)
    �than my stream of consciousness ramblings. Often, people seem to misinterpret the point regarding the limitations of concepts; your succinct explanation may go some way to helping resolve that.
    Concepts are generally necessary to make sense of our relative, phenomenon-based world; for example, the point that concepts are not absolute truths is in itself a concept. Whilst concepts can be helpful, they are not Truth. Many people are largely unaware of most concepts they hold and how they affect their lives moment-to-moment. Yet, they aggressively defend, promote, and attempt to consolidate them as if they are Truths. Therein lies much of their difficulty.
    I am very much interested in the "languaged" systems and mathematics perspective you discussed. Serendipitous timing - it piques my interest just I am about to revisit (my poorly understood and long-forgotten) senior mathematics. It is essential I understand the fundamentals of mathematics as it will underpin further study later this year. I am looking forward to learning a different way of conceptualising.
    Thanks again.
    Cheers
    Raymond
    
    �We must have concepts in order to function; they are not the problem. The problem is created when we believe they are the truth... Our suffering is rooted in a false sense of self, a self composed of concepts.� Charlotte Joko Beck
    
    Edits: 01/29/10
    - Both of you guys are elegant... - drlowmu 23:35:41 01/30/10 (1)
      And also eloquent! Thanks.
      
      Jeff Medwin
      - We try our best! ;^) - RC Daniel 23:00:21 01/31/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Both of you guys are elegant... posted by drlowmu on January 30, 2010 at 23:35:41
        
        Actually, I don't. Forums are kind of a little-thought stream of consciousness thing, with an occasional check and clean-up.
        Audio stuff is generally like that as well for me these days. That will change soon, as I get ready to build my first amp, possibly using a few of your ideas, though not whole formula.
        Cheers
        Raymond
        
        �We must have concepts in order to function; they are not the problem. The problem is created when we believe they are the truth... Our suffering is rooted in a false sense of self, a self composed of concepts.� Charlotte Joko Beck
        
        Edits: 02/01/10

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