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In Reply to: RE: Has anybody heard this desktop system? posted by jimbill on April 17, 2025 at 21:13:51

but this seems like an updated, modern version of the Monsoon desktop planar magnetics that were popular back in the 1990's.

The Monsoon satellites were outstanding, however the weakness was their integration with the sub unit that came with them. I suspect these speakers sound very good with all the modern developments since the Monsoons.

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Enjoyed them for many years - E-Stat 09:32:00 04/21/25 (7)
the sub was under the desk and provided some low end augmentation. Once we moved, the new office already had speakers in the ceiling and they were retired.

But alas, they weren't *ethereal* sounding as claimed for the DrC2. And sure don't buy the claim that their planar magnetic is *faster* than a 2 micron stat. ;)
- Are those the DrC2 speakers? - jimbill 09:50:17 04/21/25 (6)
  nt
  
  Edits: 04/21/25
  - Back up a post - E-Stat 09:52:41 04/21/25 (5)
    and you'll find the answer. :)
    
    What does a clueless video about power cables have to do with planars?
    - RE: Back up a post - jimbill 09:55:20 04/21/25 (4)
      Sorry, the power cord YT videos wasn't supposed to be attached to this post. But I do find it funny how you dismiss science. Your golden ears defy science.
      But back to the thread, are those speakers DrC2's?
      
      Edits: 04/21/25
      - Seems - E-Stat 10:39:48 04/21/25 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Back up a post posted by jimbill on April 21, 2025 at 09:55:20
        
        you don't follow who responds to whom. I use the classic view but Rod's new improved threaded view also shows it.
        
        Sorry, shallow interpretations of *science* are meaningless to professionals and music lovers who couldn't care less about the pontifications from guys who should really stick to reviewing AV Receivers and furniture . ;)
        
        my apology - jimbill 11:11:19 04/21/25 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Seems posted by E-Stat on April 21, 2025 at 10:39:48
        
        I see what you were referring to.
        
        Still don't agree with you on science. But, of course, nothing will change your mind, much like a flat earther.
        
        Apology unnecessary - E-Stat 11:34:42 04/21/25 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: my apology posted by jimbill on April 21, 2025 at 11:11:19
        
        Are you aware of views that provide that important information?
        Let's read Gene's engaging review of this TV cabinet . It got five stars for performance! Or his review of this AV receiver with a "Buy Now" buttom! "Gotta Have It"
        That's their comfort zone. And naturally where you'll find long banned inmate mtrycrafts. ;)
        Perhaps you should get out and listen more to what's available.
        
        Edits: 04/21/25
        
        Science doesn't care about your opinions... - jimbill 13:02:44 04/21/25 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Apology unnecessary posted by E-Stat on April 21, 2025 at 11:34:42
        
        or beliefs.
RE: No, I haven't - josh358 20:41:01 04/19/25 (10)
Yep. The only desktop system I know of that gets that right is the Mini Maggies, which are planar all the way down in the bass.
- RE: No, I haven't - MarcL 07:39:03 04/20/25 (9)
  I have a friend with a Mini Maggie system tri-amped with the Mini planars, DWM and an SVS sub driven from a miniDSP Flex with Dirac. It sounds really amazing.
  
  The guy who heard the BACCH mini system at AXPONA has heard my friend's Mini Maggie system ... and both of them are coming over Tuesday so we'll discuss his impressions.
  
  Agilist, Musician, Photographer, Audiophile
  7.1.4 Magneplanar: 3.7, CCR, LRS, MC1(4), DWM(2); Emotiva B1+; GR Research OB Dipole Subs (2x3); Emotiva XMC-2; Nord One NC500DM; Nord Three 1ET7040SA; VTV NC502MP; Crown XLi800;OPPO 205
  - Well? - jimbill 09:13:30 05/11/25 (7)
    What did he say?
    - RE: Well? - MarcL 10:01:14 05/11/25 (6)
      Oh sorry, I forgot to report :-)
      
      He didn't say much but his impression was that the Mini Maggies sounded better in terms of detail. But the system at AXPONA was using the BACCH so the soundstage depth and width was enhanced quite a bit. He didn't think the speakers were that special.
      
      The interesting thing about my friend's Mini Maggie system is you can have the soundstage however you want it by rolling the desk chair a foot or so. Up close the image is from speaker to speaker in front of you with little depth. Roll back a bit and the image gets wider and deeper.
      
      Agilist, Musician, Photographer, Audiophile
      7.1.4 Magneplanar: 3.7, CCR, LRS, MC1(4), DWM(2); Emotiva B1+; GR Research OB Dipole Subs (2x3); Emotiva XMC-2; Nord One NC500DM; Nord Three 1ET7040SA; VTV NC502MP; Crown XLi800;OPPO 205
      - So definitely not worth the money. - jimbill 17:45:38 05/11/25 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Well? posted by MarcL on May 11, 2025 at 10:01:14
        
        nt
        
        RE: So definitely not worth the money. - MarcL 00:16:27 05/12/25 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So definitely not worth the money. posted by jimbill on May 11, 2025 at 17:45:38
        
        The important thing is that Edgar is selling the BACCH system which is an amazing product. We can debate whether the BACCH itself is worth what it costs. But the speaker system has to viewed separately.
        
        If they're only selling the speaker system bundled with the BACCH, then I think that's a pretty bad idea. Yes, it will be way too expensive to justify for a desk system. People I know who have the BACCH system use it in systems that cost many tens of thousands of dollars, so it's justifyable.
        
        Agilist, Musician, Photographer, Audiophile
        7.1.4 Magneplanar: 3.7, CCR, LRS, MC1(4), DWM(2); Emotiva B1+; GR Research OB Dipole Subs (2x3); Emotiva XMC-2; Nord One NC500DM; Nord Three 1ET7040SA; VTV NC502MP; Crown XLi800;OPPO 205
        
        I have the BACCH4Mac Audiophile - jimbill 10:22:01 05/12/25 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So definitely not worth the money. posted by MarcL on May 12, 2025 at 00:16:27
        
        It is truly amazing on my system. Best money spent other than on my speakers.
        
        But I was thinking this product was a bit of an overreach.
        
        RE: So definitely not worth the money? - jimbill 17:54:46 05/11/25 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So definitely not worth the money. posted by jimbill on May 11, 2025 at 17:45:38
        
        It's a mere $20,000 speaker system for your computer desk.
        
        RE: So definitely not worth the money? - TitaniumTroy 20:07:58 05/11/25 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So definitely not worth the money? posted by jimbill on May 11, 2025 at 17:54:46
        
        I heard this room at AXPONA, first off the presenter running the room was not good. He kept trying to me and a friend about the technical jargon he could muster, then he kept playing different Dolby Surround Sound clips to show off the BACCH Processor. I had to straight up interrupt him ask him to play some music please.
        He did and my friend and I were impressed very impressed with the BACCH technology, the desk top speakers sounded fine and blended well with the subwoofers Unlike my previous Moonson M2000 desktop speakers, in which the bass was boomy.
        Is it better than the Mini Mags minus the BACCH, definitely not. I would testify to this even if they were the same price. Remember Mini Mags have a True Ribbon Tweeter beside being completely dipole. FYI the True Ribbon Tweet's is also fixed with Neodymium magnets on the Mini Mag's to compensate for being much smaller in size compared to the larger models.
        I run two DWM's in my desktop MiniMag system as one was not cutting the mustard for me.
        
        Edits: 05/11/25
        
        That must have been Edgar. - jimbill 10:27:47 05/12/25 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So definitely not worth the money? posted by TitaniumTroy on May 11, 2025 at 20:07:58
        
        If so, he is a rocket scientist and not a salesman. I find his people skills a bit lacking.
        
        He does the installation and initial instructing as well as updates if you buy the BACCH. And lord help you if you're not Mac literate, which I'm not. We've gotten into a couple of shouting matches.
  - RE: No, I haven't - josh358 12:08:49 04/21/25 (0)
    Very interesting. Let us know what he says!

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