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In Reply to: RE: yet another post about room placement for Magnepan 1.7s posted by soleblaze on September 23, 2010 at 09:18:47
Thanks everyone for your input. I just wonder if I move the speakers to the side with the stairs if it'll cause issues by splitting the reflection on the speaker. I figure it will at least double the time it takes for the top half to be reflected back as compared to the bottom.
I am starting to wonder if I want to try to setup the bedroom as an area just for 2 channel. I do have the equipment to do it. I'm also planning on getting a new amp soon to power them (would be using an Emotiva UPA-2 right now) and not buying a rear set of speakers would open up the budget a little bit.
What do y'all think about making the second bedroom a 2 channel and doing MMG, MMC, and MMGWs for a 5.1? I'd like to have the boxless feeling for the HT, but I can wait on that. I did buy these speakers mostly for 2 channel. However, if I put them in the second bedroom I can't pair it with my sub. (NHT U1, -3dB is 27hz)
pictureguy:
Luckily my neighbors haven't complained about my setup yet. Although I don't listen that loud and have the dynamic range squeezed out of my HT setup on purpose for that reason.
Ok, the more I think about it the more a 2 channel makes sense. Plus that room would be a lot easier to treat. I'll have to take some measurements when I get home. Would 2ft on the sides and 3ft from the back be enough for that room? Not sure how to do it against the short wall (10'5"). Of course with them being the only real thing in the room it would make trial and error a lot easier.
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As I said, I think you have to try the speakers against the stairs arrangement to see if it works. Usually, the ear is pretty sensitive to irregularities behind dipoles, but really, it's going to depend on the height of the wall. My inclination, though, would be to put the speakers opposite the stairs.
I have a pair of MMG's and as much as I love them, I think you'll find them adequate but underwhelming for home theater. They don't have much bass and they don't have much slam. A sub could help. Whereas my old Tympanis were the best home theater speakers I ever heard. Best theater speakers, really.
Caveat: I'm comparing them to good stuff, not the typical home theater speakola crap. It's just that they aren't going to measure up to your 1.7's.
If it were me, I'd be tempted to do surround for audio only, as well. So I lean to a single system. I would *not* bother with a center channel unless you're doing theater style seating with people off to the side. The center channel will only degrade the sound. You'd be better off going with 6.1, the extra rear speakers will make a difference.
Finally, I concur with those who have pointed out that the audio will benefit from the acoustics of the larger space.
The only reason I can think of to have two systems is if someone is going to be watching TV while you want to listen. But with adjacent rooms and a wall that I'm guessing isn't very soundproof, you may not be able to do that anyway.
My 2 channel listening room is 11/6 x 15, and a pair of MMGs plus subs fit in there nicely.If you can have a "WAF free" zone in the second bedroom, I would try the 1.7s in there, even though it’s on the small size. Although I imagine you will need major room treatments, the freedom to place the speakers out as far as you wish will make a big difference (I have mine almost 5' from the front wall). With bass traps in the corners, you probably won't need a sub with those 1.7s (for music).
Go with a decent 5.1 bookshelf/box system in the livingroom that works ok up against the walls.
Then when you want to listen to music, you won't be competing with "dancing with the stars" :^)
I'm probably the odd man out here, but IMHO, small maggies can't do the dynamics that a similar sized cone speaker can do for HT. I'm using Paridigm Studio 60s, driven by pro amps in my HT. A good example, in the movie "Knowing", starring Nicolas Cage, when the airline flies over the interstate highway and crashes, everyone in the room shat their pants, including the dog!
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