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In Reply to: RE: Why is that embarrasing? Seems pretty normal and what folks expect anyway. So why so 'bad'? posted by Elizabeth on January 14, 2013 at 14:43:19
It is not 'normal' when dac racks cost the same as a house; only for the few really rich.
This was not the case historically.
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"It is not 'normal' when dac racks cost the same as a house; only for the few really rich."
Absolutely agree!
These are Veblen goods, not components of a music playback system. They are being marketed to people who have more money than brains who are interested in the ego satisfaction associated with conspicuous consumption.
If one wants to dump this kind of money into a expensive automobile, one will at least get a product that will attract fancy women, something that audio equipment has not been known for since the 1950's and 1960's.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Hehehe, Tony -- +1 ;-)
Vbr,
Sam
Much money is being spent on CNC machining of boxes from a single billet, ot billets. Only aircraft wing spars are made like this to preserve structural strength.
The Mytek Stereo 192-DSD DAC has functional black sheet metal. Its appearance is well matched to my Focal monitors with their exposed composite and beryllium drivers.
My aircraft wing spars were made from carbon fiber rovings around a foam core. Quite strong on air loads, but one did not survive a collision at 50 MPH with the upper part of a large pine tree, which was at a 90 degree angle to the intended design load. Fortunately the fuselage missed the trunk by about a foot, otherwise I would have been toast.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Tony, I'm suprised about your comment about the women:
"If one wants to dump this kind of money into a expensive automobile, one will at least get a product that will attract fancy women, something that audio equipment has not been known for since the 1950's and 1960's".
All you have to do is look at any of Waxxy's pictures, and you will see the truth.
"The Blues isn't about feeling better. It's about making other people feel worse and making a few bucks while you're at it" "Bleeding Gums" Murphy
So what. I can never afford an expensive car, nor would ever bother with a watch better than a Timex. Does not make the people 'bad' who do.
IMO the complaint that expensive stuff exists is total crap/sour grapes.
have far too many airplanes, boats and football clubs to spend time listening to mere 1 million dollar systems
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I agree. Complaining about expensive (or hideously expensive) equipment is in the same league as saying cables do not make a difference.
What rankles me is the dollar amount at which an item is labeled “reasonably priced” or “reasonable.” Over time this amount is getting higher and higher (not consistent with inflation either).
I was recently reading (I don't remember what magazine) where a $1500 cable was “reasonably priced” or “reasonable.” Though I don't recall where, I have seen other items such as a $5000 amp described the same way.
For me and my situation these are not reasonable prices. I realize that others may differ.
works off of the assumption that the 'absolute sound' is only available for nearly (or maybe more) a million dollars.
"It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"
"works off of the assumption that the 'absolute sound' is only available for nearly (or maybe more) a million dollars."
This assumption is a huge joke. The absolute sound is available today for under $10,000, given suitable recordings. It is unavailable at any price with the majority of recordings.
IMO, if one is a music lover with a spare million one would do better to donate it to a symphony orchestra or otherwise sponsor the arts. One would be doing something socially useful, so there would be some rational basis for the momentary ego satisfaction. Also, one would be likely to gain much more social status and in a socially more elevated stratum that that frequented by most audiophiles.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Tony, I agree wholeheartedly with you. I proposed this amount to be somewhat consistent, percentage-wise, for individual components to be 'reasonably priced' in a million dollar system versus the system you propose and I could own. At 59, I remember clearly 'reasonably priced' systems I could live with for decades. Audio wasn't always elitist.
"It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"
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