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In Reply to: FI-25R vs P/C037 posted by Wayne Brady on August 1, 2006 at 23:57:43:

After posting my comments about the 'rippling' of the surface finish on the Oyaide AC connector blades, I took another quick look at them to make sure I wasn't overstating the issue. After looking very closely at them, I'd say 'rippling' in the plating isn't a very precise description. I'd say it's more of an 'orangepeel' effect, similar to a poor paint job on a car. I'm not sure what effect if any this has on the sound of the connector, so feel free to take my description with a grain of salt.

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Re: A Clarification - Duster 01:53:27 08/03/06 (8)
Hi Wayne,
If your P-037 was purchased through an Oyaide dealer it should be sent back for exchange since there is no reason to accept a flawed Oyaide AC plug (it should look perfect). My Oyaide P-037, P-046, and P-079 AC plugs all have a perfect mirror finish, which is Oyaide's specialty. It's very perplexing to me that a bad plating/polishing job could ever get past Oyaide's quality control criteria (unthinkable :-).
I don't question the veracity of your information, but I'm just wondering... if by 'orangepeel' effect you mean dimpling that looks a bit like an orange peel's surface, that description fits what the infamous counterfiet "fake Oyaide P-037" as found on eBay (unpolished blades and inferior sounding) looked like...
Best Regards, Duster
- flawed Oyaide, anyone using the 037 connectors? - Wayne Brady 08:13:33 08/03/06 (7)
  Duster: The Oyaide in question is the real deal without doubt. Purchased directly by me from a merchant who is a dealer for Oyaide. I'm wondering, if anyone here besides me is currently using the 037, and perhaps they could take a close look and tell us if this is common to their connector as well. As I said earlier, I don't remember if the 079's I had featured the same flaw, but I'll say they didn't because I didn't notice it at the time. Perhaps Oyaide's plating process doesn't work as well with the much 'harder' Rhodium finish?
  - Re: flawed Oyaide, anyone using the 037 connectors? - endust4237 10:09:14 08/04/06 (0)
    My Oyaide connectors (they are European Schuko) are absolutely perfect. I have never seen any with the problems you described and I tried (have) quite a few different one. I like them really much.
  - I have one... - Duster 12:15:34 08/03/06 (5)
    As mentioned in the previous post, my Oyaide P-037's finish is as pristine as my P-046's and P-079's finish, so I find it peculiar that your P-037 is flawed as described unless it's a defective unit. As far as the comparative performance of the plugs in question, I don't think it's a matter of Oyaide making an inferior product to Furutech... I think you simply prefer the rhodium Furutech's presentation over the rhodium Oyaide's presentation, as I know of other folks who also agree with your comparative observations and personal opinion. You might consider sending your P-037 to Joseph Cohen at the Lotus Group (Oyaide's US distributor) for inspection and possible exchange. Cheers
    see link:
    - http://www.lotusgroupusa.com/ (Open in New Window)
    - Re: I have one... - Wayne Brady 13:38:09 08/03/06 (4)
      Duster, that all goes without saying, except that between us, we have two examples. I was wondering if anyone else had the 037's, and what they looked like. With only two examples, either one could be typical.
      - Re: I have dozens.... - alan m. kafton 17:03:43 08/03/06 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Re: I have one... posted by Wayne Brady on August 3, 2006 at 13:38:09:
        
        Being a dealer for Oyaide since US inception, I have ordered and custom-built many dozens of power cables along with receiving a like number of 037 connectors (and 046's and 079's). I have not seen *one* example with anything other than a smooth, mirror-like finish (as Duster described). I know this to be true as I pre-condition each and every cable (prior to customer shipment), then inspect and bubble-wrap each connector prior to shipment.
        I would definitely return the 037 to your dealer for a new one. The finish you describe is *not* the norm and is an anomoly. One of the primary reasons I chose Oyaide was because of their superior QC and finish.
        
        Re: I have dozens.... - Wayne Brady 18:57:22 08/03/06 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: I have dozens.... posted by alan m. kafton on August 3, 2006 at 17:03:43:
        
        Well, you may not have seen *one*, but you've now heard of *one*. If I could capture it with the macro on my camera, I'd take a pic for you all, so that you don't doubt my veracity, or think I have some agenda for simply stating a fact.
        
        Re: Not necessary, Wayne.... - alan m. kafton 20:25:55 08/03/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Re: I have dozens.... posted by Wayne Brady on August 3, 2006 at 18:57:22:
        
        ....your word is good enough for me. With large-scale production, it's always possible for that *one* to escape quality control final inspection. After all, we're only human.
        Again, get it exchanged for a proper one. If you were my customer, I would do so without question.
        
        Re: Not necessary, Wayne.... - Wayne Brady 21:31:37 08/03/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Not necessary, Wayne.... posted by alan m. kafton on August 3, 2006 at 20:25:55:
        
        Thanks Alan. I'm half-tempted to get another connector, and compare it to the 'flawed' one, just to see if I can hear a difference. But then there's burn-in, and reterminating, and yada, yada, yada. Although I'd really like to determine for myself if the smoothness of the plating really makes a difference, just for my own audio education.
        Man, what a geek I am. ;)

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