This has probably been extensively aired before, but I haven't seen it since I started following this group a couple of months ago and I find it most interesting. It seems that there is a definite group of very knowledgeable people who believe that, for the most part, modern conductors and soloists are inferior to those from the 30s 40s and 50s. What I am trying to understand is whether this is simply a case of what I term "willful nostalgia" (akin to people of my father's generation insisting that none of today's ballplayers are as good as Williams, Mays and Mantle), or whether there could be some objective merit to this view. What I cannot figure out is WHY this would be the case (in baseball, one could even come up with a rational theory in defense of the nostalgia, namely that back then all the good athletes played baseball whereas now they play a variety of sports, so the talent pool is diluted, but I cannot come up with a similar theory for music). Surely the musical education today's elite performers received cannot be inferior to that received by the prior generation (or perhaps more accurately stated, two generations ago). And I cannot believe the explanation is that truly talented musicians don't go into classical music anymore, if for no other reason than I see no real evidence of any genius in rock and roll performers. So what's the explanation, if there is one? Enlighten me.
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Topic - Why is older better? - Ozymandias 08:14:14 06/05/02 (54)
- Music(art) is a product of it's time - RonyW 05:30:30 06/07/02 (3)
- Re: Music(art) is a product of it's time - edta 16:26:49 06/07/02 (2)
- Despise Mozart? An Oxymoron - Ozymandias 09:43:35 06/08/02 (0)
- "After Schoenberg and all the film music... - clarkjohnsen 08:42:41 06/08/02 (0)
- Re: Why is older better? Jack Robin - freddyi 00:29:36 06/07/02 (0)
- I've got your opinion right here. And it's long. - psgary 21:25:58 06/06/02 (1)
- Thanks for writing! nt - clarkjohnsen 08:40:08 06/08/02 (0)
- older isn't forcibly better! - backtomono 08:32:40 06/06/02 (1)
- "This confusion is very revealing of our time." - clarkjohnsen 10:15:36 06/06/02 (0)
- we need someone that has been there! - TOOL 16:42:48 06/05/02 (1)
- Re: we need someone that has been there! - Brian Cheney 21:57:04 06/05/02 (0)
- Older is not necessarily better - John C. - Aussie 15:17:07 06/05/02 (0)
- Kids these days, I swear... - Bagsgroove 15:12:37 06/05/02 (5)
- Re: Kids these days, I swear... - Ozymandias 16:01:45 06/05/02 (4)
- I am not sure that I under stand your problems? - gd 17:27:03 06/05/02 (3)
- Re: I am not sure that I under stand your problems? - Ozymandias 18:10:42 06/05/02 (2)
- Re: I am not sure that I under stand your problems? - gd 19:50:45 06/05/02 (1)
- Re: I am not sure that I under stand your problems? - Ozymandias 05:15:52 06/06/02 (0)
- All the below, and MORE! - clarkjohnsen 13:36:01 06/05/02 (1)
- Re: All the below, and MORE! - DWPC 14:53:53 06/05/02 (0)
- Is new, new? - gd 12:23:24 06/05/02 (1)
- Dvorak? - edta 16:44:33 06/07/02 (0)
- personal benchmark - newbee 11:50:18 06/05/02 (0)
- Re: Why is older better? - Tom Bourg 11:18:15 06/05/02 (0)
- Here is My Take... - Todd Krieger 11:15:35 06/05/02 (0)
- Re conductors, it´s a matter of extension vs depth - orejones 10:50:29 06/05/02 (1)
- Re: Re conductors, it´s a matter of extension vs depth - Ozymandias 10:55:47 06/05/02 (0)
- Re: Why is older better? - The Real Dave 10:42:32 06/05/02 (2)
- The REALLY ODD part about all of this is that... - SE 13:35:09 06/05/02 (0)
- Excellent synopsis...I'd add more - DWPC 13:04:15 06/05/02 (0)
- Re: Why is older better? - Brian Cheney 09:24:53 06/05/02 (1)
- "No pain, nothing to say."... - SE 09:39:06 06/05/02 (0)
- Re: Why is older better? - Muzikmike 08:54:10 06/05/02 (3)
- Mike,Find this funny - Art J. 11:35:49 06/06/02 (0)
- So, what, you're presupposing that older IS, indeed, better... - SE 08:59:00 06/05/02 (1)
- I ain't sayin' nuttin' - Muzikmike 09:32:45 06/05/02 (0)
- It is not. Individual performers or performances can be better... - SE 08:42:07 06/05/02 (2)
- Re: It is not. Individual performers or performances can be better... - Ozymandias 08:48:10 06/05/02 (1)
- Well, I'm not gonna put words in their mouths... - SE 09:08:29 06/05/02 (0)